(December 21, 2017 at 5:30 pm)SteveII Wrote:(December 21, 2017 at 5:16 pm)JackRussell Wrote: ...
I know you really believe and that you think our disbelief is unreasonable.
If it was so reasonable everybody would believe.
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First, I never ever said/implied/thought that an atheist's disbelief is unreasonable. It is not. Stop making things up.
Second, if I used your same reasoning in the other direction: "it's reasonable because 2.3 billion people believe", what would you say?
What a load of bullshit.
If I find someone's position reasonable, but MORE IMPORTANTLY factual, it would make sense to adapt that position.
You DO think we are not reasonable or using facts otherwise you would not hold the position that a God exists.
If I thought you were reasonable and factual I would hold your position.
You have a claim, and that is all you have. If you had more than mere arguments from tradition, and your own wishful thinking, you'd have something you could take to the patent office and win a Nobel prize in science.
WE do get the appeal as to why you like it. It sounds great on the surface that you have a cosmic super hero looking out for you. We also get the appeal to the idea that you will out survive your own death. WE DO, and that is because most of us used to buy that crap.
The problem you have, that Muslims and Jews and Hindus and even Buddhists have is the age of the universe and the fact most of the time we as a species have not been in it. Seems like a ton of waste to do all that if one species on one speck in all this was supposed to be the focus.
YOU DO find it reasonable to believe in your God, otherwise why argue it? You do find us unreasonable otherwise why argue against us?