RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
December 23, 2017 at 3:06 pm
(This post was last modified: December 23, 2017 at 3:08 pm by Joods.)
(December 23, 2017 at 2:30 pm)Macoleco Wrote: It bothers me when many of you say "A woman has the right to abort...". Hold on right there fellas. A COUPLE has the right to abort. Ths is not a decision a woman can take by herself if she has a partner. BOTH are pregnant. The woman is carrying the baby.
Wrong. Both are not pregnant. A man has no say in what a woman can do with her body, regardless of the fact that his seed made a fetus. That seed stopped being his property the second it left his body and entered the womans. The resulting pregnancy still belongs to the woman. If laws allowed men to dictate what happens to a womans pregnancy, then rapists would be allowed to force their victims to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term, against her will. Ergo - a man cannot force a woman to stay pregnant if she doesn't want to. Please point out to me, any law in the land of the United States of America, where it states that the "couple" has abortion rights or that the man has the right to prevent a woman from aborting her pregnancy.
Quote:Also, if the fetus still has no consciousness, and has been diagnosed with Down Syndrome, if the couple wishes, an abortion should be done.
This benefits everyone. The couple can try again, and someone will avoid the pain from a miserable life.
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Please show me where having Down syndrome leads to pain from a miserable life. Keep in mind, you are talking to a mother OF an adult with Down syndrome and neither of us have ever had a miserable life as a result of her having DS. I have made sure she had all the best that education could give her and I have always taken care to ensure that she grew up happy and well adjusted.
(December 23, 2017 at 2:42 pm)Macoleco Wrote:(December 23, 2017 at 2:37 pm)Mermaid Wrote: I do not agree. While I think it is the right thing to do to consider the father's wishes, too, the woman's body is her own and this is a very personal decision. There is nothing more yours than your body and your life. She absolutely can make this decision on her own. She is the pregnant one.
1. The child is not an extension of your body.
2. The mother does not own the child just because it is in her womb.
It is actually scary to see women who believe they have the right to abort a fetus/baby just because they are gestating. BOTH are pregnant, as I said in the previous post.
Besides, if you really think that way, then what responsability does the father have with the mother and baby? He has no duty to sustain you since you can kill the child any moment you want lol. By having no saying if the baby lives or not, you are also telling him he has no responsability towards you.
1. The fetus is not a "child" until it is actually born. Until then, it is a parasite living rent free inside a woman.
2. She owns the womb the fetus resides in. Go read Roe v. Wade and learn something.
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