RE: Ohio bans doctors from performing Down Syndrome abortions
December 24, 2017 at 10:18 am
(This post was last modified: December 24, 2017 at 11:05 am by Losty.)
(December 24, 2017 at 9:21 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(December 24, 2017 at 9:03 am)Brian37 Wrote: We could care less what the right wing want to call it. It still remains that if you are not part of that decision making, between the female and the doctor, you DONT have a say. The people who want to ban it 100% of the time are NOT willing to adopt them, or pay for any medical conditions after birth, nor do they care about the quality of life of the female or baby after birth.
Then perhaps both sides are in the wrong.
"I am pro life. That means that I’m also pro social justice.
That means that I am not only for the dignity of the human being from the moment of conception, but also for the dignity of the human being until the natural end of life. For life does not end with birth. A person who is truly pro life is pro all life, pro every stage of life, pro every stage of life for every person. For all human life is sacred, because it is created by God.
That means that I support anything that helps a person live a full, healthy and satisfying life, in every part of the world. So I am for care for the poor, for a living wage, for affordable health care, for adequate housing, for a humane work environment, for equal pay for women, for generous child care, for the support of the aged and the infirm.
That means I support caring for the marginalized among us: the refugee, the immigrant, the displaced person, the homeless, the unemployed, the person with disabilities, the single mother, women who are abused, minorities of every kind who are persecuted, and all those who feel left out, mocked, lonely, ignored or frightened.
That means that I am against torture, because it is an affront to human dignity. I am against the death penalty, the most serious affront to an adult life. I am against abuse and mistreatment in prisons. I am against war as a way to solve problems.
That means I respect the lives of all creatures, and am therefore for the care of the world in which we live, for the environment in the broadest sense.
That means I am pro peace, pro justice and pro reconciliation.
The longer I am a Jesuit, the longer I am a priest, the longer I live, and the more I pray and listen and observe, the more convinced I am of the sanctity and beauty of life.
So, yes, I am pro life. Pro all life. I hope you are too."
-Father James Martin
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(December 24, 2017 at 9:13 am)Wololo Wrote: A) Twenty weeks is not too late. The foetus is not viable outside the womb. That viability figure hasn't budged since the UK set 24 weeks as the limit in the 60s. B) The video is from a fundie anti-abortion group well known and notorious for doctoring and releasing faked videos. This is the group after all which made and released the lying videos accusing PP of selling tissues of aborted foetuses.
Tell yourself that's not how a 20 week baby is aborted, if it makes you feel better about supporting it. I went to nursing school. That's how it's done.
The unborn at 15 - 20 weeks in the womb...what mothers are to expect at this term, half way through her pregnancy
Between 21 - 27 weeks. Third Trimester
An unborn dismembered by abortion at 21 weeks
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