(December 29, 2017 at 7:26 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(December 29, 2017 at 5:52 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Perhaps it doesn't justify the killing... But the need to help and support the women with their children is not there, not even in the socialist European countries... Maybe except France...
Throughout the ages and to this day, women have felt the need to abort pregnancies. When illegal to do so, they have resorted to clandestine situations with all the risks inherent to such a practice.
Women have chosen the risk of doing something illegal with the possibility of death, over having a child. To these women, making abortion illegal is telling them that their lives are worth less than the life of the unborn.
Is it?
Is an adult human worth less than an unborn that she can have again?
That makes no sense to me at all. Why would you allow or condone an unjustified killing of a human being for any reason? I also do not follow or agree with the sentiment that making it illegal is saying anything about their lives being worth less. It is saying it is wrong to kill the baby, and you will be held accountable if you do so. Do you think this line of reasoning would hold under any other context. I also don't think that putting that type of worth, is correct at all, when talking about killing another person. Would you make the same decision if the child was a toddler, and the parent was threatening to kill either the child or them both?
And if the help and support is not there, then shouldn't we be fighting for that?
The help and support that is not there, would have been closer, if the politicians in charge were more socialist and less capitalist/liberal, don't you think?
Instead, in the states, for some reason, the Republicans/capitalists/liberals are associated with the religious... The core of Christianity, family and helping each other, is completely ignored by those politicians... but people still follow them... And the same thing happens in Europe.
As for worth, a woman can (usually) easily have another child. A child can't easily become a parent. Ultimately, it's about gene perpetuation. If a policy is to be enforced, it should be to favor the woman's life.
Since (or while) no structures exist to support women with unplanned pregnancies, the abortion is a necessity that is felt by some of those women. And they will, if the practice is illegal, perform them clandestinely.
Legal, or illegal, the baby dies. I think this fact is what many in the anti-abortion side don't realize.
Do we, as a society, also want the mother to die? Or have complications arise that will then tax the health care system?
