(December 30, 2017 at 4:39 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(December 30, 2017 at 4:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Well Atlass33 most humans are fooled at birth long before they can formulate adult critical thinking skills. I was sold my religion as a kid too. I look back at it and hate the fact I was sold that crap. But to be fair, that is most of our species worldwide. The sell of a religion to a kid is an unfortunate majority. I don't see that behavior in our species ending any time soon.
If you want to hate religious violence and sell of bigotry then be fair and equal and I would agree with that. But our species flawed perceptions cant be wiped out by force. I will still take a liberal theist who is non violent over any conservative bigot of any religion, and those assholes exist in every religion.
Point is I was fooled as a kid too. Someone lied to me too and told me a magic man would save me. But I don't hate Catholic Lady even if I don't agree that her god exists.
Once we grow a little we take our freedom to have our own thoughts. So the good thing is that the product sold has a very limited time. The people who grow up; and keep the same mentality given to them by their parents or society; are actually wanting this.
You can't expect a bigot to be fair. If they were fair; they wouldn't be bigots in the first place.
Well again, just like Catholic Lady, I am happy that neither of you want me dead. BUT I would say to both of you, your respective bigoted conservatives are STILL drawing their sense of morality from the same respective holy books. You cant use the Hadiths as a dodge, they still fall under the umbrella Koran. Just like Baptists and Catholics still have the same heros in God and Jesus. Just like some right wing Jews want a Talmud based constitution, while other Jews see themselves as secular and liberal.
Maybe the better option is that humans merely want a god to be real?
Look Atlass, if you go to your death still believing, but you are a peace loving non violent person, I can live with that. I'd only hope you consider you got it wrong. I'd say the same to Catholic Lady too. But yea, outside that, I hate bigots too, especially those who use ANY holy book to justify violence to others.
