RE: From where do you get your information ?
January 9, 2018 at 7:55 am
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2018 at 8:11 am by Whateverist.)
(January 9, 2018 at 6:29 am)Grandizer Wrote:(January 9, 2018 at 6:14 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Theistic philosophers are a guilty pleasure of mine. They are so open-minded and logical! If most believers were as reasonable as them, I wouldn't have a problem with religion.
A really good "contemporary" theistic philosopher (he died a few years ago) is John Hick.
Oh, they can be very logical to the point that I can't but respect them for that (better than a handful of intellectual atheists I've come across). It's only when it comes to matters pertaining to God that they lose me, but I will still read their works (even on God) just because they can still be good at explaining stuff.
By the way, most here won't agree with me on this, but I think William Lane Craig is very good with the logic, and not just rhetoric. But it doesn't help that he's sneaky and skews things in his favor. Plantinga comes off as more honest. Never heard of Hick, but I'll give his words a check next time I'm in reading mode.
WLC loses my respect precisely because I know he will use the forms of valid argumentation to deliberately distort and mislead.
(January 9, 2018 at 6:29 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(January 9, 2018 at 6:29 am)Grandizer Wrote: By the way, most here won't agree with me on this, but I think William Lane Craig is very good with the logic, and not just rhetoric. But it doesn't help that he's sneaky and skews things in his favor. Plantinga comes off as more honest. Never heard of Hick, but I'll give his words a check next time I'm in reading mode.
WLC is okay. In my opinion he's not worthy to lick the salt off John Hick's nuts though. Totally different class of thinker.
Hick is no apologist. He could give a shit about proving god's existence. He writes remarkably insightful commentaries on what he thinks the true nature of God is.
If you can, check out "A Rational Basis for Theistic Belief" by Hick-- short essay, easy read
Looked for it online with no luck but found this on youtube.