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Hypothetical Q's about psychotic beliefs and antipsychotics
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RE: Hypothetical Q's about psychotic beliefs and antipsychotics
(January 10, 2018 at 4:32 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: I'll be interested if someone can provide a peer-reviewed paper that indicates the opposite.
Psychedelic drugs certainly have an effect on religious belief, even though anti-psychotics don't.

It's probably important to note here that, in the case of those disorders that manifest themselves within a religious framework...some poor fucker who thinks god literally speaks to them..anti-psychotics -do- help...because they're actually suffering from what the pious play for theater.

In those cases, it would not be surprising at all to find that an anti pyschotic informed the subjects religious beliefs. Particularly if their religious beliefs had a reciprocal relationship with their disorder. For some people who hear the voices of the angels..when the voices go silent, they no longer believe in angels. Others continue to believe in angels, simply accepting that they were sick when they thought they could hear the trumpets.

(January 10, 2018 at 4:35 pm)Alexmahone Wrote:
(January 10, 2018 at 4:15 pm)Hammy Wrote: Psychosis is less about 'false' beliefs and more about dysfunctional beliefs.

That doesn't make much sense; if a belief is true, it cannot possibly be dysfunctional.

I'll use a really fun example here.  Take the mythical Cassandra as a hypothetical (and fun) case example of true beliefs causing disorder.  She was cursed to speak true prophecies that no one would believe.  

Quote:In The Fall of Troy told by Quintus Smyrnaeus, Cassandra had attempted to warn the Trojan people that she had foreseen the Greek warriors hiding in the Trojan Horse while they were celebrating their victory over the Greeks with feasting. They disbelieved her, calling her names and degrading her with insults.[14] She grabbed an axe in one hand and a burning torch in her other, and ran towards the Trojan Horse, intent on destroying it herself to stop the Greeks from destroying Troy. The Trojan people stopped her before she could do so. The Greeks hiding inside the Trojan Horse were relieved that the Trojans had stopped Cassandra from destroying it, but they were surprised by how well she had known of their plan to defeat Troy.[14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra

This ability caused her great personal suffering.  We see in the narrative above that it also lead to social alientation nd what her peers would have considered erratic behavior.  She attempted arson with an axe in her hand.  Now, why would the example of cassandra be informative?  Well, replace cassandra with your steroetypical  corner hobo-prophet.  His belief in his ability to predict the future is disordered.  Every once in awhile, he might luck out and make some accurate prediction.  His belief, and the prophetic behavior, however, were disorded before the true prediction, and will still be disordered even if he happens to get one right. While this is a super edge case way to explain the distinction..more mundane examples would be when a fear of mortality leads to pronounced negative consequences in this life. It is certainly a true belief that we will one day die - but if that makes us go batshit like cassandra or a hobo prophet..it's a disorder all the same.
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RE: Hypothetical Q's about psychotic beliefs and antipsychotics - by The Grand Nudger - January 10, 2018 at 4:49 pm

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