RE: Proof that God exists
January 15, 2018 at 1:47 pm
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2018 at 1:58 pm by vulcanlogician.)
(January 15, 2018 at 1:15 pm)Agnosty Wrote: I don't know how to make it more clear. Ok, I posit x. Now I will seek evidence that confirms x is true. The funny part is x = all scientific inquiry begins with confirmation bias.
The seeking of evidence to support the idea that all seeking of evidence is to support an idea.. that is, itself, confirmation bias.
Read John Locke's Essay Concerning Human Understanding . In it Locke uses LOGIC to support the epistemological value of empiricism--not evidence.
(January 15, 2018 at 1:15 pm)Agnosty Wrote: Are you an atheist?Yes. I do not believe in gods.
Quote:If yes, then are you advocating atheism? If yes, then are you seeking evidence to disprove atheism? If yes, then you are my new best friend because you are the one person on earth who is really objective. But if you're objective, then why are you advocating anything?
I don't believe in gods. I feel confident in my conclusion about gods, but I don't advocate atheism per se. I advocate a plurality of ideas. A Socratic agora, if you will.
Quote:If you're objective, then why aren't you agnostic? The instant you think you know something, you can no longer be objective. If you were objective, then you'd not be able to know.
I am somewhat agnostic. But I draw conclusions, and I have what Khem calls "provisional certitude." I also think my beliefs don't amount to shit if they can't survive scrutiny. So I do my best to challenge my assumptions. Philosophy is my favorite method for doing this.
I disagree. Objective people can know things. Why do you think otherwise?
Have you ever studied ancient Greek skepticism? I think you'd like it.