(January 24, 2018 at 2:26 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(January 23, 2018 at 10:06 am)A Theist Wrote: Dems chose the wrong battle. While polls show that the majority of Americans agree that something should be done to protect the DACA dreamers, they don't agree that our government should be shut down because of them. They don't agree that dreamers should have priority over our military either. Dems are out of touch. Instead of running farther left candidates the Dems need to start putting moderates like Joe Manchin on the ballots. I don't believe the midterms are going to go as well as the Dems hope. They're too divided between the farther left Dems like the Bernie types, the moderates like the Joe Manchin types, and the establishment types like Hillary.
I agree. The optics of shutting down the government over albeit unwilling illegal aliens was not something that would sell in the hinterlands -- rightly or wrongly.
I don't agree that they're "out of touch", I just think that they're out of touch with an electoral-college majority on these sorts of issues, and realized that. They backed away from a decision that would have (and perhaps still will) hurt their chances this fall.
This was political calculus, and in that sense, Khem's thread title is apt; they sold 750,000 folks down the river a little. Whether they can recoup that this fall is up in the air.
I think the dems are going to have to come up with something other than resist Trump if they hope to win the mid terms. Their party is too fractured between what can be considered the left, the moderates, and the establishment dems with agendas and messages going in different directions. The only thing that's barely holding them together is their dislike of Trump, and with the economy taking off like it is now the dems are going to have an uphill battle this Fall, from what I see.
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