RE: Conservatives have more self-control
January 27, 2018 at 2:48 pm
(This post was last modified: January 27, 2018 at 3:13 pm by A Theist.)
(January 27, 2018 at 2:03 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:I'm sure he meant none of it. He was just playing the politician for votes.(January 26, 2018 at 3:57 pm)A Theist Wrote: When it's politically advantageous for him Dawkins claims to be a "Cultural Christian" who loves to sing Christmas Carols. He's an atheist when he's writing and selling books about atheism and he's a Christian when he's campaigning for political office....
Not that's not what he meant at all.
he lives in a society where a lot of activities are Christian based Christmas, weddings etc.
You can take part in those things but not believe the bullshit.
I myself have gone to christenings because they can be quite nice get togethers and they mean nothing outside of that.
(January 27, 2018 at 2:46 pm)Mathilda Wrote:(January 27, 2018 at 2:39 pm)A Theist Wrote: I'm pretty much soured on socialized health care. It taxes the shit out of you and doesn't benefit the people who pay for it.
Don't assume that American socialised health care is typical of socialised health care in the rest of the world. What you have in America is a mess because it is the first tentative step towards a working system that is actively opposed by republicans.
I can't personally relate any experiences of socialised health care in other countries, but it's great in the UK and Germany (although Germany uses insurance companies it is effectively socialised because the companies return any profit they have made at the end of the year and only charge a proportion of your salary).
I don't know how it all works in the UK and Germany. I'd have to do some research on it for a better understanding of what you guys have. I just know that here in the U.S. it sucks that people who work and pay into it don't have the benefit of the health care they pay for. The ER I went to a few weeks ago, the closest one being in a slum area called "The Bottoms". It was filled with Medicaid recipients, (I know this because we could hear the nurses tell another that they were taken care of through Medicaid). Some were definite "seekers" talking about how the nurses better give them their pain meds. Another guy hollered out, "Hey, nurse! You think you can get my wife a sandwich and a pop? She just took her meds on a empty stomach and it's upset". Is this what our taxes are paying for and we can't get the medical help that these guys are getting? Are we paying for their tattoos and their I phones too? Yes. They had I phones. This is what I experienced as far as socialized medicine in the U.S.
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