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Conservatives have more self-control
RE: Conservatives have more self-control
(January 27, 2018 at 4:50 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(January 27, 2018 at 3:54 pm)A Theist Wrote: and the deductibles for workplace insurance are so high that it's basically useless. Not too many people can come up with a few thousand bucks out of pocket.

Can't, or don't? Average spending on Christmas gifts was over $900 the last two years. People need to forego the crap for a couple years and build some savings.

The US needs to go to either:

- a high-deductible system. This would reduce premiums and presumably reduce unnecessary tests, since people will be paying more out of pocket.

- a single-payer system.

The current system is ridiculous. Auto insurance doesn't pay for every oil change. Home insurance doesn't pay for normal wear and tear. They just protect you from catastrophic loss. Yet, we expect health insurance to kick in every time we do anything health related.

I'm generally conservative and favor a small government, but I'm good with single-payer, maily because I think offering health care to all is simply the humane thing to do. I'm willing to pay more taxes for it, myself.
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Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 8:47 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 8:56 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by possibletarian - January 26, 2018 at 9:15 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 9:26 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by possibletarian - January 26, 2018 at 9:36 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2018 at 11:33 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2018 at 11:40 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 11:49 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2018 at 11:56 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 12:01 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2018 at 12:19 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by possibletarian - January 26, 2018 at 12:39 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by I_am_not_mafia - January 26, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 9:59 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by I_am_not_mafia - January 26, 2018 at 10:17 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 10:27 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by I_am_not_mafia - January 26, 2018 at 10:30 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by I_am_not_mafia - January 26, 2018 at 10:44 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Neo-Scholastic - January 26, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2018 at 11:27 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Anomalocaris - January 26, 2018 at 10:29 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Minimalist - January 26, 2018 at 11:50 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Astreja - January 26, 2018 at 3:57 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 4:09 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Astreja - January 26, 2018 at 11:29 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 30, 2018 at 11:35 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 30, 2018 at 11:59 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 30, 2018 at 12:05 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 30, 2018 at 12:20 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by SaStrike - January 30, 2018 at 1:57 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 30, 2018 at 2:08 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by brewer - January 26, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by RoadRunner79 - January 26, 2018 at 9:52 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Neo-Scholastic - January 26, 2018 at 9:57 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Mister Agenda - January 30, 2018 at 6:53 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 9:58 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 11:40 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 10:47 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by I_am_not_mafia - January 26, 2018 at 10:49 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 10:59 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by I_am_not_mafia - January 26, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 11:22 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Neo-Scholastic - January 26, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Seraphina - January 26, 2018 at 11:09 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by henryp - January 26, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by I_am_not_mafia - January 26, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Anomalocaris - January 26, 2018 at 11:34 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 11:44 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Catholic_Lady - January 26, 2018 at 11:49 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Tiberius - January 26, 2018 at 11:53 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Whateverist - January 26, 2018 at 12:01 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 12:09 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Whateverist - January 26, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 12:30 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 12:53 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Whateverist - January 26, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 1:18 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Whateverist - January 26, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 1:38 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 2:03 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 2:46 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Whateverist - January 26, 2018 at 4:27 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2018 at 4:47 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Crossless2.0 - January 26, 2018 at 4:51 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 4:55 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 27, 2018 at 7:54 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 27, 2018 at 8:28 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 27, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 1:54 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Whateverist - January 26, 2018 at 2:33 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 2:46 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Whateverist - January 26, 2018 at 2:50 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 3:41 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 12:55 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 1:00 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Jackalope - January 26, 2018 at 12:46 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Longhorn - January 26, 2018 at 1:04 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 1:37 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 2:30 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by GodisintheTV - January 26, 2018 at 2:20 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Neo-Scholastic - January 26, 2018 at 2:36 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Whateverist - January 26, 2018 at 2:41 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by A Theist - January 26, 2018 at 4:06 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by SteveII - January 26, 2018 at 6:27 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by GodisintheTV - January 26, 2018 at 3:06 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by A Theist - January 26, 2018 at 3:57 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 4:14 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by A Theist - January 26, 2018 at 4:33 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 4:47 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by GodisintheTV - January 26, 2018 at 8:31 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by downbeatplumb - January 27, 2018 at 2:03 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by A Theist - January 27, 2018 at 2:48 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by I_am_not_mafia - January 28, 2018 at 6:08 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by possibletarian - January 28, 2018 at 6:18 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by downbeatplumb - January 29, 2018 at 3:07 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 3:20 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by The Valkyrie - January 26, 2018 at 3:39 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 3:54 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 4:49 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by A Theist - January 26, 2018 at 5:55 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2018 at 6:02 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Anomalocaris - January 26, 2018 at 6:07 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2018 at 7:01 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by henryp - January 26, 2018 at 6:09 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by RoadRunner79 - January 26, 2018 at 6:19 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by A Theist - January 26, 2018 at 9:03 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 4:58 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 5:09 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 5:21 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 26, 2018 at 5:27 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Catholic_Lady - January 26, 2018 at 6:44 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Brian37 - January 26, 2018 at 8:20 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by downbeatplumb - January 28, 2018 at 6:12 am
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by A Theist - January 27, 2018 at 3:54 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Aegon - January 27, 2018 at 5:41 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Amarok - January 27, 2018 at 9:31 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Anomalocaris - January 29, 2018 at 3:23 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Catholic_Lady - January 30, 2018 at 5:44 pm
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RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Amarok - January 30, 2018 at 5:58 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 30, 2018 at 6:26 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 30, 2018 at 5:49 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 30, 2018 at 6:32 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 30, 2018 at 6:41 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 31, 2018 at 7:22 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 31, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Mister Agenda - January 30, 2018 at 6:42 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 30, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 30, 2018 at 6:52 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 30, 2018 at 7:12 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 30, 2018 at 8:55 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 30, 2018 at 10:26 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Catholic_Lady - January 30, 2018 at 7:00 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Amarok - January 30, 2018 at 5:32 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by SaStrike - January 30, 2018 at 6:10 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Amarok - January 30, 2018 at 6:13 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Amarok - January 30, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Anomalocaris - January 30, 2018 at 6:55 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Amarok - January 30, 2018 at 7:03 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Anomalocaris - January 30, 2018 at 7:22 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Thumpalumpacus - January 30, 2018 at 7:24 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 30, 2018 at 10:45 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by The Valkyrie - January 30, 2018 at 10:49 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Fake Messiah - January 31, 2018 at 7:55 am
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Amarok - January 31, 2018 at 4:10 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 31, 2018 at 4:43 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Amarok - January 31, 2018 at 4:49 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Anomalocaris - January 31, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Amarok - January 31, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Shell B - January 31, 2018 at 6:54 pm
RE: Conservatives have more self-control - by Edwardo Piet - January 31, 2018 at 9:37 pm

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