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Conservatives have more self-control
RE: Conservatives have more self-control
(January 27, 2018 at 2:23 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It isn't that conservatives don't care about poor people. It's that they feel we should help the poor in the form of charity donations, volunteer work, etc... verses having money forcebly taken from people and handled in whichever unproductive way the government sees fit. As a general rule, Christians are supposed to give at a minimum of 10% of their income for the less fortunate. When CD posted here about a charity project he was doing, AM was one of the members who donated the most money of the people here.

I will agree that this is by far most ideal. Giving to charity vs having it taken by force by the government, I mean. Obviously the former is better. Only problem is it relies on everyone to do the right thing and voluntarily give. And unfortunately many dont do that. So the government has to step in. I see this though, as a necessary evil vs an ideal good. I support money especially going to single moms and people who have disabilities and aren't able to work. Maybe the government could be more efficient in giving to those who actually need it? I do also support appropriate tax breaks for people who give a lot to charity.

The only way to sort out problems is through taxation and government intervention. Charites can provide band aid solutions and highlight issues but to really solve the problem you need the government.

Bottom line, charities don't work in the long term.

"tax breaks" to people who give a lot to charities exist and are abused as a tax dodge by the wealthy.

For instance they can donate a painting to a charity and decide how much that painting is worth. There have been instances where rich people have brought a painting for a million, decided its worth 100 million donated it to charity and used their guess of its value to deny the tax payer 100 million.






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Conservatives have more self-control - by John V - January 26, 2018 at 8:47 am
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