RE: A call for sanity - Council of Ex Muslims
August 28, 2011 at 3:53 pm
(August 27, 2011 at 8:57 am)Citereh Wrote: Quote:In no way shape or form do any of the persons in this video defend Islam, but they do defend the right for Muslims to practice their religion.
This statement contradicts itself. How can you say "their not defending that religion but are defending their right to practice it" i.e teach it, live it and in some cases die by it. That IS defending that religion.
No it doesn't. I despise the BNP, I oppose facism, communism, socialism, etc. However, I am a supporter of freedom, and the freedom to support or subscribe to any ideology that you want to. Thus, whilst I do not support the BNP or any other facist political party, I fully support the ability for those parties to exist, and for people to become affiliated with them.
Quote:It's like saying I do not agree with the Catholic church and its ideologies but I am ok with them teaching people that babies that die at birth go to hell as they have not been baptized. Or as later taught (due to outrage from their believers) go to limbo for a time.
Yes, and there is nothing contradictory about that. Just because you don't agree with such a position doesn't mean the position is untenable. You can disagree with the actual teachings, but support the freedom of such religions to teach them. This is what freedom is about...
Quote:You cannot disagree with a predefined unchangable ideology without disagreeing with the teachings of that ideology. Just like I cannot say I am a muslim but I do not belive in what Islam (the Qu'ran and Sunnah) teaches, it is contradictory.
Agreed, but that isn't what we are saying here. The guy in the video isn't saying that he believes in Islam; he is saying the opposite. However, he still supports the rights of believers of Islam to practice their beliefs.