(February 14, 2018 at 10:48 am)SteveII Wrote:(February 14, 2018 at 10:27 am)Grandizer Wrote: Yes, so? Can you provide an abstract example of a married bachelor as well? You were saying earlier that "completed infinity" is a logical contradiction like "married bachelor". I gave you a logical example of "complete infinity"
So, when you said there was such a thing as completed infinity of events, you are talking about real objects. Your justification is that mathematics has a useful (on paper) abstract concept like considering all of the natural numbers--which cannot be counted--as one thing. You don't see the difference?
Not just natural numbers, but all integers. And all real numbers as well.
What do you mean by cannot be counted as one thing? I'm not asking you to count anything. It's there, already complete.
Provide a logical argument against actual infinity existing in reality, if you think there is a logical problem. Saying "married bachelor" is not good enough because we already showed you it's not the same thing.
Quote:Excellent example!!!! I can give arguments AND evidence AND LINKS!!! How about backing up your hypothesis!!
Arguments, yes. But very weak and unimpressive arguments.
Evidence, beyond arguments? Don't kid yourself. And if there is any, it would be the unremarkable kind that wouldn't make me go "Woah! You're right!" even secretly.
And links? Don't need them unless I'm asking you for evidence that I can't access through just your words alone.
Here, all we need to discuss is the logic of actual infinity, and we've shown it's logical. That's all we're saying.
