High school shooting in Parkland FL

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I made a case a couple of pages back about how the availability of guns seemingly leads to an increase in the number of actual deaths (caused by guns).
Indeed, I didn't present stats on the overall homicide rate, regardless of the means to achieve it... but I think that it would only add one more nail in the argument that gun availability does cause more deaths.

I think I did see that, but often it's the same comments, so I may not have said anything.  Just from what you had said here, the actual number of gun deaths.This figure likely includes suicides, which account for about 2/3 of gun deaths.  The picture looks a little different when you look at gun related homicides vs the households which possess a gun.  As I had said, we can also look at homicide rates or violent crime rates before and after gun bans in other countries.  Not just gun deaths, but the total number of homicides;  I think you have less impact in your argument, if you are just shifting the means.

The following Chart from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_de...s_by_state shows gun murders to gun ownership.  It doesn't show the correlation that is sometimes presented. 


 

This is why my questions are; what are you trying to accomplish, what are you proposing, and why do you think it will work.    I live in rural Pennsylvania, where I would guess the percentage of households owning a gun is high, and many of them likely own a number of weapons.  Yet I would be far more comfortable walking around at night here, than in Washington DC (the dot way up high), which to my understanding has fairly strict gun control laws.

I'm glad someone got a chuckle out of that

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If that is true how is it that in Romania only 300 murders happen per year ? And please don't say mentality or culture of violence because Romania's socio-economical enviroment is as fucked as a hooker at the corner.

I'm unsure.   (Also unsure to what specifically you are addressing in my posts).

But Iceland has a number of guns, and very few (none in this instance) murders by gun per 100,000 people.
There are a number of other countries, which have guns, and yet their guns seem to not jump out of their cases and kill people.  They must be nicer to their guns (or better at keeping them subservient.)

https://www.deseretnews.com/top/2519/7/S...rship.html

Firstly I know where the gun laws haven't change a thing , countrys like Jamaica , you seriously compare the USA with Jamaica.

Secondly, dude all the countries that are listed there have gun laws , you need to take classes ,, you need to take an medical evaluation the difference between the USA and them is that in the USA you can buy them like they were candys.