Rebellion against god

[drfuzzy]

If the scriptures contain what appears to be mythological nonsense, it is correct to say that the scriptures appear to be mythology.

If the scriptures contain what appear to be immoral divine behaviours or unconscionable commands, then commenting on those issues is acceptable.

It's as simple as that.

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I agree.
But it can be misread, we don't need any proof of that.
If it speaks about the resurrection, and you don't agree with that, that's fine.
Religions say it means that you have an immortal counterpart, a ghost or whatever, that leaves the body upon death.
If it's not enough to meddle with your life, they have to own the grave as well.

Did you know that Cathedrals have containers with the remains of the dead in them?
They even have remains under the altar or pulpit. That's standard practice.

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If you don’t care what people think of the Bible, then what reason is there, in your own mind, for someone to believe you when you say that a god exists?

I can't remember asking people to believe me, but to not misquote or lie about what the Bible says. I am not that concerned about whether they believe what's written in it or not, because it's none of my business.
Most of the complaints against God and the Bible come from ignorance about what it teaches. It's only a reflection of false religions. I expect strong critics of the Bible to have an accurate knowledge of it.

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You've asked the question before - why should you and I believe in the Bible, or something along that line.
I haven't been able to answer that, because I don't "believe" things, I live by my natural senses.
If I see a piece of new machinery, I wonder how it works and figure it out. Belief doesn't enter into it.

I don't have a problem with reasoning.
If I see an airliner fly by, I don't imagine that nobody designed it, and that it grew on a factory wall.
I know there's a lot of people who would like me to believe that, but I don't, because I make things myself.
But if I were really unskilled and brain dead, I would believe that the aircraft assembled itself under an abandoned warehouse.

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Again, if you don't care what people believe or what they think of the Bible . . . why bother to argue your interpretation at all?  Particularly to a group of people who do not believe in the existence of any gods?

You said that it can be mis-read.  Well, that's pretty damned obvious.  Even Wikipedia has a list of Christian sects/denominations that is absolutely mind-boggling.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ch...ominations      And after the "historical groups" section, they were all reading the same book - arguments re: translations aside.  Thousands of groups that can't agree about what the silly book says, and many have a history of killing other groups who disagree with their "interpretation", and their imaginary sky-god has never given any indication that ANY one of the groups has it right or wrong.  Not a single one of these groups has any history of being happier or healthier than any other group, either.

We tend to post Bible verses to theists who come here to preach. -- Without interpretation.  And so often we get the response "but it's out of context" or "it doesn't say what you think it says" because the Christian witch doctors have gotten away with telling people lies for thousands of years.  For most of the Church's history (any church) the con-men benefited from illiterate congregations.  Many still have congregations trained to listen to fantasies and pontifications instead of reading for themselves.

You have a fantasy deity without the tiniest shred of real proof of its existence.  You have a cobbled-together book of fairy tales and a million interpretations of what people think it says.  Why the hell should we care if an SDA says that the Pentecostals are a "false religion" and the Pentecostals say that the Methodists "don't pray right"?  It's all like a bunch of Trekkies arguing over the hidden meanings in Episode 21 and whether Kirk or Picard was the better captain.