RE: What Major Intellectual Issue Most Keeps You From Accepting The Christian Narrative?
February 23, 2018 at 6:40 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2018 at 6:42 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(February 23, 2018 at 6:25 pm)Chad32 Wrote:(February 23, 2018 at 5:58 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Scapegoating is assigning blame to one that's innocent, the bible makes it clear that Jesus Christ is blameless, but he of his own choosing accepted the penalty of sin which was death, no one assigned to or accused him of any sin, he could have chosen not to do it, THAT is not scapegoating.
His death was needed in order for us to live, just like the food you eat needs to die in order for you to live.
It wasn't. Even if you argue that it doesn't count as scapegoating, even though it's very similar, setting up something like that was cruel and wrong. No one should suffer for crimes they didn't commit. No one should be put in a position where they're going to suffer and die unless they beg someone else to spare them, and accept something gruesome and wrong as payment. That's a sadistic choice. It's something villains in media do, because it's so fundamentally wrong it shouldn't need explaining.
Ok so then by that logic, why does anything have to die on order for you to eat? Why is it their fault you're hungry? No creature should suffer and die for the sole reason of satiating your hunger...
Why is that not just as sadistic?
(February 23, 2018 at 6:25 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Also, lest we forget, he did not do it of his own choosing. When the day came for him to do it, he made it clear he didn't want to. "Let this cup pass from me", and all that. It happened anyway. If someone agrees to have sex with someone in the future, and then changes their mind when the agreed upon day comes, it's still rape if it happens anyway.
You forgot the whole "nevertheless, not my will but thine be done" and "no man take my life but I lay it down" part.
(February 23, 2018 at 6:26 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(February 23, 2018 at 5:58 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
His death was needed in order for us to live, just like the food you eat needs to die in order for you to live.
Interesting. Billions of billions of people live and die just fine without having some fantasy original sin expunged by some imaginary pagan bronze-age immoral blood ritual sacrifice. I was raised Pentecostal, but I have realized that I have no need for your god-boy to spend a few hours nailed to pieces of wood for my mental or physical well-being. In fact, I am many orders of magnitude better off for having rejected that puke-making slavish "washed in the blood of the lamb" crap. You can make assertions about your delusional fantasies all day, enjoy wasting your time.
You really won't know the answer to that question until you're at the point of death...