RE: Rebellion against god
February 23, 2018 at 7:25 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2018 at 8:02 pm by Banned.)
(February 23, 2018 at 5:56 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: If this world is a designed world, then what would a world that was not designed look like, you think?
Like some of the city planing we have ? !
(February 23, 2018 at 6:19 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Again, if you don't care what people believe or what they think of the Bible . . . why bother to argue your interpretation at all? Particularly to a group of people who do not believe in the existence of any gods?
You said that it can be mis-read. Well, that's pretty damned obvious. Even Wikipedia has a list of Christian sects/denominations that is absolutely mind-boggling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ch...ominations And after the "historical groups" section, they were all reading the same book - arguments re: translations aside. Thousands of groups that can't agree about what the silly book says, and many have a history of killing other groups who disagree with their "interpretation", and their imaginary sky-god has never given any indication that ANY one of the groups has it right or wrong. Not a single one of these groups has any history of being happier or healthier than any other group, either.
We tend to post Bible verses to theists who come here to preach. -- Without interpretation. And so often we get the response "but it's out of context" or "it doesn't say what you think it says" because the Christian witch doctors have gotten away with telling people lies for thousands of years. For most of the Church's history (any church) the con-men benefited from illiterate congregations. Many still have congregations trained to listen to fantasies and pontifications instead of reading for themselves.
You have a fantasy deity without the tiniest shred of real proof of its existence. You have a cobbled-together book of fairy tales and a million interpretations of what people think it says. Why the hell should we care if an SDA says that the Pentecostals are a "false religion" and the Pentecostals say that the Methodists "don't pray right"? It's all like a bunch of Trekkies arguing over the hidden meanings in Episode 21 and whether Kirk or Picard was the better captain.
Being bought up in a home of contradictions and confusion, just made me all the more determined to find the truth about what was going on.
I applied the same strategies when confronted with the obvious contradictions within religions.
Rebellion has its place and time, but it's usually a desperate and temporary move.
(February 23, 2018 at 6:02 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: So you understand that things humans manufacture are designed. Congratulations, I guess. *shrug*
I'm ready to be amazed. Explain why your human artifact analogy applies to the natural world.
So you are an intelligent and amazing creature, and it took about nine months to develop you - some will try and convince you it took about 7 millions years?
And if there was a slightest mistake at any stage, you might have been born deformed or not at all.
How many stages of development are there in nine months?
About 6,324,000 and multiply that by the number of relationships between each cell, an average of about 4,100,000,000,000. at each stage, and multiply that again by the number of relationships from one stage to the next.
Every stage is crucial.
Are there any corrections made during all these stages, for any glitches?
Yes. About 1.63 to the power of 24. Which is about 0.001 % of the above calculations.
Nature is constantly being corrected on all levels, including the molecular structures. That scenario did not exist when the world was first created - it was perfect and had no dysfunctions on any level.
What we have today is malfunctioning nature. All of the developments and adaptations are usually compensatory moves to survive.