High school shooting in Parkland FL

[Brian37]

Again, you will need a higher stressor to make someone kill a person , "confiscating guns" won't do the trick for most people.

Not for 99% of them, probably. In America that leaves what, around 100,000 who will put up a fight?

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If they are so mentally unstable that they would try to shoot up places when faced with increased gun control measures, they shouldn't have guns in the first place.

Isn't that Cap'n Awesome's point? That rather than try to confiscate those guns after they're in the hands of someone unstable, they should be prevented from acquiring them in the first place?

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Yeah if one country ever should have been a den of violence it's Romania.

You have to pass a psych eval to get a firearm permit in Romania.

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You know, I am seeing SO MUCH FUCKING LOVE FOR THIS COUNTRY from people willing to destroy it just to keep their FUCKING TOYS.

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I'd take their hands, too. Make great wall gun racks if they're preserved right, and the irony factor would be LOLbaby.

As opposed to those who would destroy the country to take their fucking toys away?

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I think you're more likely to encounter a bunch of scared vets without guns after they follow the law and begrudgingly hand them over. There'd probably be a few that hid guns or got extra pissy, but I don't think they'd start a huge shootout, for the most part. This is really demonizing vets with PTSD. I've spent decades of my life around groups of vets with PTSD. They have anxiety, not insanity.

I think your mileage with the ones who join militias might vary.

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Nobody wants a civil war. That is not what liberals want.

I was addressing specifically those on this thread fantasizing about forcibly disarming the subset of American gun owners who will forcibly resist being disarmed, no matter how many of them die in the process. I would hope they are an insignificant minority. I also hope they're not serious.

You know what "eminent domain" is? That is when the government takes your property and compensates you for it, to use it for things like highways and fire stations and public schools. One could argue corporations have abused that, but the intent of the law originally was not about force, but a public trust agreement for bettering society.

NOBODY is suggesting a fascist state, but a buyback program for war riffles and big clips would amount to the same idea. At some point America has to face the fact we need to put public safety above the profits of one industry. Firearm injuries and deaths are an epidemic and we cant cop out to "arm everyone". 

Firearms still exist in Scotland and Australia, but what they don't have is an unhealthy obsession like we do here. If you want a firearm for hunting, target shooting or home protection, sure fine, but you don't need an Ar-15 or a banana clip. We still need to keep them out of the hands of the mentally ill, out of the hands of stalkers and domestic abusers and religious and political terrorists too.

None of what I just typed is a call for an 100% ban on all firearms. I have a friend in Oklahoma, who grew up with guns and even he thinks the NRA is bat shit crazy.