RE: Rebellion against god
February 27, 2018 at 11:31 pm
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2018 at 11:39 pm by Banned.)
(February 27, 2018 at 4:50 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: It's not . And even if it were a truly good god would not care who hates him . He would reveal himself all the same because no one could hate him afterwards . And a god who merely makes the universe is not a god worth worshipping . And nor does it mean he owns the universe nor would he wish too own it.
Christians cannot reason or convince . Thus the weakness of their ideology is made clear . Those who have the ultimate truths would be able to convince to fly and water to burn . You cannot convince one soul here . It's not out of some grand example or a fault of others . It's because you have nothing worthwhile to say.
And your lack of ability to defend it says all we need to know.
Then he is no god . A gods mere presence in reality should be a permanent as i have spoken before . If he exists their would be no need of permission or waiting .
As i said the suns rays do not manipulate the cold does not manipulate . They are present and known. While your so called god is not.
Christians are not oblidged to convince people of anything. The Bible, which you neglect to study, has to stand on it's own, and it claims that the Spirit of God will teach the contrite in heart.
God already revealed himself in Jesus Christ. As much as the world would like to deny that. If you would like to reduce that to the efforts of the Catholic church you are welcome to do so, but it won't get you to the truth.
What you are wanting is a peek at God, while at the same time practicing sin.
You won't survive.
It's not that God is arbitarily wanting you to die. If that were the case you wouldn't have been born.
If you understood the nature of God and how the universe exists, you wouldn't be making weird demands for a revelation.
(February 27, 2018 at 5:28 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Your the one who brought up loss and gain . I simply answered . You god clearly has no interest in my friendship or love as either come from demands of yielding or submission or ownership . Those are the terms of an enemy not a friend . As for the reason it's assumed i was made it seems to again have nothing to do with friendship or love . But slavery .
Once again you make another noose. About slavery, aren't you already controlled by your habits? That's slavery already. And wanting to give up an idol is even nore difficult than breaking a habit. But if you ever want evidence of God on your side, ask him to give you the desire to break down the idols. But first try doing it by yourself, and see how you go.