Big Bang theory is not valid.

[Diamond-Deist]

Wait a minute, you came in with that OP and didn't have anything beyond some crackpot screaming conspiracy? What were you going to do when we didn't heed their sage wisdom? Weak.

Be patient my little bunny eared friend you are way to reactionary, my advice would be to lay off the caffine, Halton Arp is not what this view is based on and neither is just that video, as I said it was an "example" of similar views.

I've noted your questions mainly by theVOID which are worth addressing and I shall .......

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Hence why I said watch Cosmos.
And if you say a creator created the first particles/atoms... then what created the creator.
Isn't the much more simplest explanation is that... it is what it is. The universe has always contained a finite amount of matter and energy and that will always be true. Accept that the universe... is the universe. No creation had to happen... it just is. This is the universe that we live in, period, end of discussion. No needs for creators because that creates an ending cycle of creation.

Hiya, this is a slightly different topic but one I can answer now, probably belongs more in "ask the Deist".

I did not say a creator created the first particles/atoms I said a BB theory would imo require one to do so, where else would these alpha atoms come from?

My personal beliefs are rather different, not to be sarcastic but I would of thought my first 5 page running battles with the Death Bunny and theVoid would have shown that I don't particularly believe in the BB, maybe a local BB but not an all creating one.

I firmly believe that God (whatever it actually is), space and time have one thing in common ...... they are all infinite with no beginning and no end.

When you add it up the notion that they are not eternal actually is more ridiculous than if they are.

If God has a creator then who created the creator of God and so on, that line continues into an infinite dilemma hence I have no doubt in my mind that God or what you could call a God is infinite ..... however my definition of God is not stable at this point.

Space follows the same suit, space cannot have an edge it goes on forever and I don't give much credit to the spherical theory either, if space is contained by borders or edges what resides outside, then outside that then outside that then outside that ..... it's continuity means whether we like it or not it's eternal.


Please do not question my personal beliefs as part of this cosmology discussion, they are not one and the same one is science one is personal/religious beliefs and I don't want one sidetracking the other thanks.