RE: Hypothetical For Gun Rights Advocates
March 28, 2018 at 12:59 pm
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2018 at 1:01 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Another moot point. Joe gun owner is not a marine on a battlefield. The most dangerous firearm to him (and all of his loved ones), is his own. This is a fact and it is a fact that has to be reconciled by the owner if they want to call or consider themselves largos.
Speaking of problem firearms...and I do this in every thread, but maybe it will help to give context to why the pulse of gun control at present is so ass backwards. Here's how trace data from the atf ranks em...they rank state by state and there's minor divergence but this is trend;
1. Handguns that aren't revolvers.
2. Revolvers.
3. Hunting rifles.
4. Shotguns
5. Deringers
5. Receivers and frames (yes, as in, peices of guns people use to commit crimes with)
6. Machine guns (and for the purposes of atfs trace data they actually include ar-15s..specifically modified ones, in this stat even though they are not officially classified as such)
Then you have "unknown types" "detsructive devices" and "any other weapon".
So..can we see why a person advocating for gun control but saying we can keep our handguns and our hunting rifles and shotguns just -might- be on the wrong track? Granted, I can understand why we would focus on an edge case like ar-15s and school shootings..and we restrict explosives heavily even though they're down there at the bottom of the list so I don;t see why we couldn't do the same with ar-15s if people just can't stop shooting up schools with them. If, however, we focus on the least pressing types of firearms and we allow the most pressing types to squeeze through in negotiation..how will that even begin to approach our gun problem?
-and how long do you think a gun ban like that will last?
Speaking of problem firearms...and I do this in every thread, but maybe it will help to give context to why the pulse of gun control at present is so ass backwards. Here's how trace data from the atf ranks em...they rank state by state and there's minor divergence but this is trend;
1. Handguns that aren't revolvers.
2. Revolvers.
3. Hunting rifles.
4. Shotguns
5. Deringers
5. Receivers and frames (yes, as in, peices of guns people use to commit crimes with)
6. Machine guns (and for the purposes of atfs trace data they actually include ar-15s..specifically modified ones, in this stat even though they are not officially classified as such)
Then you have "unknown types" "detsructive devices" and "any other weapon".
So..can we see why a person advocating for gun control but saying we can keep our handguns and our hunting rifles and shotguns just -might- be on the wrong track? Granted, I can understand why we would focus on an edge case like ar-15s and school shootings..and we restrict explosives heavily even though they're down there at the bottom of the list so I don;t see why we couldn't do the same with ar-15s if people just can't stop shooting up schools with them. If, however, we focus on the least pressing types of firearms and we allow the most pressing types to squeeze through in negotiation..how will that even begin to approach our gun problem?
-and how long do you think a gun ban like that will last?
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