(September 3, 2011 at 8:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: Personal attacks don't necessarily have to be aimed directly at someone. If you are debating a creationist and make the generalization "creationists are idiots" then you are knowingly making a comparison between that person's beliefs and being an idiot. The same applies here; you are well aware that some people on this forum are Republicans, or Libertarians, and yet you continually make reference to both groups as somehow connected to Nazism.
Is that where we are going now? So I cant point out how Libertarians and fascists are grouped up (using proof after proof) because its considered a personal attack on you and Void? Then you say that its exactly like "creationists are idiots" is an example of a personal attack... thats fucking brilliant... now you have to warn damn near every single atheist on this site for personally attacking every christian on this forum. Or is this a special case, where all the jabs the atheists did on this site towards christianity is ignored, but any jab I make at libertarianism is a stab directly in your heart?
If thats true..if you HONESTLY stand by this double standard, then dont even warn me..just ban me now and be done with it and let everyone on the forum see exactly how you work with things like this.
(September 3, 2011 at 8:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: In my book, that isn't just rude and childish; it's wholly irresponsible...and I dont know a single atheist on this forum who hasnt once said "creationists are idiots". In fact I will bluntly say it right now..if you are a member of this forum, and a creationist, then you are freaking idiot. Its a fact. The believe fairy tales over science..that is a classifier for an idiot.
(September 3, 2011 at 8:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: I've been to your websites Rev, I know you're probably a smart guy, so I don't believe for one minute that you actually think that the political theories of the Republican and Libertarian parties come even close to Nazism...and Im also fully aware that you have to get behind someone before you can stab them in the back.
(September 3, 2011 at 8:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: The only reason you would make the comparison then, is for effect; to try and scare your opponent into submission...because it isnt like I have, you know, posted countless times showing the connection between the three. Ive always just made shit up about it. I suppose I have to tell you that I was just being sarcastic as well?
(September 3, 2011 at 8:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: You honestly have to step back, calm down, and take a good look at the sorts of things you are posting.This coming from a man who is ready to ban me for political speech. What makes you think I wasnt calm the entire time I was posting the facts? I have taken a good look at the sort of things I have posted. I just recently posted an article from a site called "The American Fascist Movement" that specifically says that all Fascists, and all Americans, should read all of Ron Paul's books, and consider nominating and voting for him as the REPUBLICAN presidential candidate. That is CLEARLY a Fascist suggesting to other fascists that they should vote a Libertarian into the Republican party for president. Its point blank, its clear, it shows what I have been posting about all this time...
...but, as usual, I dont expect you or void to acknowledge the evidence for what it is. You will over rationalize it. You will "no true scottsman" it, and you will even find a way to blame me for it.
(September 3, 2011 at 8:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: When you open thread after thread with an immediate example of Godwin's law, and get the negative response you've been getting (even from non-Republicans and non-Libertarians), you have to stand back and think that maybe, just maybe, it is you who is wrong about the politics here.When did I godwin? I guess you are going to say that my last post of the American Fascist Movement suggesting that all American fascists vote a libertarian into the Republican party for president is ALSO a godwin...huh? Im going to get negative response from some people anyways..there are hundreds of members on this forum, cant make all the ass-hats happy. Besides, the positive comments and support and thumbs up I have gotten have far has outweighed the negative responses. Im sure if you were paying so close attention to notice the negative, that you also just happened to notice the positives as wel? Didnt you? ..or am I allowed to point that out?
(September 3, 2011 at 8:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: Forgive me if I'm wrong, but have you ever actually raised a single argument for why Republican party politics and Libertarianism can be so closely related to Nazism?Countless times..me and Min both have posted evidence after evidence and it has brushed of and re-interpreted or ignored every single time by you and void. Here look at this most recent one..its point blank blunt
http://atheistforums.org/thread-8384.html
(September 3, 2011 at 8:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: I certainly haven't seen them if you have. Hence why I don't think you actually have any reason (other than for effect) to use such a comparison. Go ahead, and prove me wrong.
You see that Min? He hasnt noticed the countless times we have tag teamed left and right just slamming article and web site, after quote of the evidence of the alliance between American Fascists (whom I call "nazi's" for short), Republicans, and Libertarians...or the times when other members chipped in and brought their own searches to the table.
He wants me to prove him wrong? I just posted an article for the American Fascist Movement asking all fascists and all Americans alike to vote a libertarian (Ron Paul) as President for the Republican ticket.
...now I await the status of the Scottsman.... is he true or not?
