SCOTUS Tells Anti-Abortion Nuts To Go Fuck Themselves

[Amarok]

That's interesting, as this morning I was thinking along the same lines. Many here are framing this as a male v. female issue. To me it's a human life issue. I don't see it as a women's rights issue. Well, except for the fact that worldwide there are a lot of sex selective abortions, and they're mostly keeping the males and aborting the females. That's a women's rights issue. I don't see why the fact that women can bring life into the world grants them the right to kill.

Frequently women will say You're not a woman, so you don't understand/have a say/whatever. My response is, I'm not a woman, but I was a fetus, so yes, I'm entitled to an opinion. There are two parties involved.

It has nothing to do with having the ability to bring life into the world, but everything to do with forcing a person to keep an unwanted something in their body for the satisfaction of others and at the expense of the person's wellbeing. Look, I can't help you to just magically have empathy for women in these situations. You either have it or you don't, but no woman has to cater to your needs anyways. So that's that.

Until the baby comes out of the woman's body, only the woman carrying the baby inside her womb gets to decide what to do with it while it resides inside her own body. Whether you like it or not, this is the fair and right thing to do as far as I am concerned, and as far as the laws go.

Yeah, you were a fetus in your mother's womb, that's all. You weren't anyone else's fetus.

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I disagree.   We tell women who are pregnant, not to smoke, not to drink, not to do crack!  We tell them this, because it is not just their body they are effecting.  (any more smoking will get you nasty looks any way).

Well, this is one of those things being legally debated. Perhaps we shouldn't ban pregnant women from drinking or smoking. Rather, we should provide education and support for women prone to abuse drugs and alcohol while pregnant, rather than use punitive measures to oppress women.

However abortion is not about what the woman who is pregnant does with her body.   It is specifically an act of violence against another human (not the woman).

Which happens to not be illegal, so appeal to emotions all you want, but you aren't going to succeed in having women oppressed and enslaved for your satisfaction. And you don't care about fetuses anyway. This is an anti-woman thing on your part.

As to your side track comment on my signature quote.  I don't think that you did show it as out of context.  To do so, I think that you would need to show immediate context, where the quote was immediately negated, or to possibly show where the quote only applies within an immediate an narrow context. Your problem might be one, that I suspect happens a lot here (especially concerning theists and religion.  That you assume much more than what is said, and arguments that I'm not making.  You may be reading into things too much, and trying to find problems that are not there. 

 I did check the context of the quote when I applied it to my signature (though I don't recall it now).  I don't remember seeing any problem with context.  I also do not think that it was dependent on anything else around it, rather the idea is fully encapsulated within the quote, and was utilized by Vilenkin in this particular circumstance..  So, if you are done tilting at windmills, can we get back to the discussion of ideas?

Yeah, here's the passive aggressive disingenuous RR-tactic in full glory once again. Like you'd have even thought to quote Vilenkin if it weren't for William Lane Craig doing the same, lol.

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The issue is the compelling interest of the state.  Yes, let's focus on that, lol.

They won't it's all going to be appeals to emotion