(May 18, 2018 at 3:31 am)snowtracks Wrote:(May 9, 2018 at 11:52 pm)Kit Wrote: "Creation" is not evidence of god, though. To a subjective observer, perhaps, the type who finds comfort in the readily available answer.The Universe had a beginning, therefore God.
When you say "the Universe", what do you mean by it?
Energy and matter?
Space-time?
(May 18, 2018 at 3:31 am)snowtracks Wrote: The cause is always greater than the effect.
Greater in what way?
Physics tells us that the effect always has greater or equal entropy.
(May 18, 2018 at 3:31 am)snowtracks Wrote: GR proves that the universe previously didn’t exist.
GR? What's GR?
General Relativity? I don't remember it proving any such thing...
But, if you mean the matter and energy within the known Universe, that is probably right.
(May 18, 2018 at 3:31 am)snowtracks Wrote: Let’s don’t hear any nonsense appeal about metaphysical speculations of a multiverse to avoid the ineluctable conclusion that a Causal agent transcendental to space and time, brought the universe into exist for his own purposes*.
Wow! "A Causal agent transcendental do space and time"... Physics tells us that space-time itself can be a causal agent. Space-time itself can be the causal agent that brought the matter and energy within the Universe into existence. No purpose involved. No purpose required.
And, sure, that entails the possibility of other Universes being created in the same way, in many (or infinite) points of space-time.
(May 18, 2018 at 3:31 am)snowtracks Wrote: Earth is the center of the universe, all points in the universe can claim the physical center, only Earth is where the information is, which makes it the center.
Yes, we can put the center at any point and physics works the same.
I don't understand what you mean by "where the information is"... which information? Why is information not elsewhere, too?
I wouldn't be surprised if life had originated elsewhere in the Universe... and, with it, other intelligent life forms, capable of dealing with information.
(May 18, 2018 at 3:31 am)snowtracks Wrote: *He has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time.
Why do you guys always trot out this "saved" business?
Saved from what?