RE: Why I'm here: a Muslim. My Philosophy in life. What is yours;Muslim?
May 19, 2018 at 6:02 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2018 at 6:23 pm by WinterHold.)
(May 10, 2018 at 1:06 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: What is wrong with supplementing our understanding of the Quran with the words of Mohammed and other contemporaries of the time? (i.e. the hadith)
Who said that the Hadith is the word of Mohammed? Immediately after his death, civil wars hit the Islamic world and led to great divide in Islam, one that we still see until today (Sunni/Shiite division).
The Hadith cannot be trusted.
I believe in the Quran being the word of God, and I take a huge leap of faith in that process.
I can't do the same for Hadith books.
(May 10, 2018 at 1:20 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It;s an interesting question. The most credible supplementals are authenticated by the exact same process that produced the quran. It would seem that any notion that the hadith are fundamentally dubious would wrap up the quran as well.
I also think that it would be difficult to conceptualize or contextualize what islam was or is without all of those contemporary documents doing and being exactly that.
It's not the same.
For the Quran: you have direct speech (verses) that Mohammed himself recited and dictated on men called "Kottab al Wahee- Writers of the Revelation". Their job was to sit with Mohammed and write what he says. That is the Quran.
For the Hadith: after 100 years of Mohammed's death, some Muslims began a tradition of asking around for other things that Mohammed said. Scholars began to make libraries with the talks and rumors they heard, they wrote it down, and that is the Hadith.
They are totally different.
