(May 20, 2018 at 11:47 pm)Godscreated Wrote:(May 20, 2018 at 6:53 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of COURSE human beings bear the responsibility for human suffering - there is simply no one else to blame it on.
You are correct sir it is we who bear the responsibility, God gave us a moral spirit with which to help those who are in need. God has done His part know it is up to us to respond.
BSB4 Wrote:But if you live in a haze-filled Godism, it is incumbent upon you to determine why children get bone cancer, harlequin foetus syndrome, and 1000 other fatal or debilitating birth defects when God could simply have made those impossible. Or - in the case of children dying from malnutrition or preventable diseases - it is YOUR job to explain why God couldn't at least ameliorate this by making people less greedy and more giving.
As has been explained to you a 1000 times sin and not just the original sin has brought these things upon man, God cursed the earth because of Adam and Eve's disobedience and the result is all the horrible things we encounter in life. God can not just take away what He knew had to be, that would not be just, a penalty must be paid for "our" rebellion. God gave us a moral compass to act upon and if we ignore it then that's on us, as I said God has done His job and now it is our responsibility to act. You and all those who do not want to be blamed for the condition of this world will try and put the responsibility you have off on someone else, that isn't even close to being responsible for your own account. I see on here day after day how Christians are responsible for global warming and don't say the atheist here do not do that because a thousand responses could be pulled up to show differently. You sir as I and everyone else are responsible for global warming, those who smoke, those who cook, those who drive motor vehicles, burn a fire in a fire place or any of another 100 reasons all have a hand in this problem. So everyone should quit blaming God and others and get off their lazy a.. and do something, or shut up.
BSB4 Wrote:In a universe with an all powerful, all knowing and all merciful God, EVERYTHING has to be laid at God's door, any other position is simply ludicrous nonsense. In a universe without such a God (and ONLY in such a universe) we have only ourselves to blame.
Boru
Whose sin causes the sickness? The sin of the babies/young children or others?
Also if god is really all powerful, he has full control. Not only can he do whatever he wants, but he can predict all futures and get whatever result he wants. If you say there are rules he must follow that limit him, well, he's the one who made those rules. How does he pick when to intervene or not to intervene? From where I'm standing, there's no proof he ever has intervened.
