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I am a better person than God!
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RE: I am a better person than God!
(May 21, 2018 at 2:05 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote:
(May 20, 2018 at 11:47 pm)Godscreated Wrote: You are correct sir it is we who bear the responsibility, God gave us a moral spirit with which to help those who are in need. God has done His part know it is up to us to respond.


As has been explained to you a 1000 times sin and not just the original sin has brought these things upon man, God cursed the earth because of Adam and Eve's disobedience and the result is all the horrible things we encounter in life. God can not just take away what He knew had to be, that would not be just, a penalty must be paid for "our" rebellion.  God gave us a moral compass to act upon and if we ignore it then that's on us, as I said God has done His job and now it is our responsibility to act. You and all those who do not want to be blamed for the condition of this world will try and put the responsibility you have off on someone else, that isn't even close to being responsible for your own account. I see on here day after day how Christians are responsible for global warming and don't say the atheist here do not do that because a thousand responses could be pulled up to show differently. You sir as I and everyone else are responsible for global warming, those who smoke, those who cook, those who drive motor vehicles, burn a fire in a fire place or any of another 100 reasons all have a hand in this problem.  So everyone should quit blaming God and others and get off their lazy a.. and do something, or shut up.

Whose sin causes the sickness? The sin of the babies/young children or others?

Also if god is really all powerful, he has full control. Not only can he do whatever he wants, but he can predict all futures and get whatever result he wants. If you say there are rules he must follow that limit him, well, he's the one who made those rules. How does he pick when to intervene or not to intervene? From where I'm standing, there's no proof he ever has intervened.

 Everyone's sin, sin in general, the world was curse because of sin and all these things that go wrong with our bodies is because of sin.

To answer the bold by me, God is all powerful but that doesn't mean He is required to use it, especially in the way you think He should. You say God can do whatever He wants as if He has the desire to do all things and you are wrong, God can't lie, cheat, steal or any other sin, He has no desire for sin, He hates sin. Also you speak as if the future has a multitude of possibilities, again you are wrong there is only one future no other will ever exist. God does have a plan that will result in what He knows to be true and that plan is as unchangeable as God is unchangeable. 
 God made no rules to limit himself, God has been, is and always will be who He is. God is absolute and complete as He is and never needed any rules for himself. God is limited by His nature if you can call it that. From God's perspective He isn't limited because He doesn't have any desire or reason to do certain things, He is who He is, someone we can always trust to be the same day after day.

God want intervene when it would go against His absolute will (plan). God may not intervene when something asked isn't against His absolute will. God acts in situations as He sees fit, when it will be a benefit to a person in the long run, then I could be wrong and He does it out of pure compassion, it's He omniscience that will determine those things and I have to accept that as does everyone, believer or not. 

Then you are standing in the wrong spot, Jesus said let those who have ears hear and those who have eyes see. You have to be on the right side of the tracks to view God's work. I'm watching my mother slowly passing on, she had been suffering for sometime and a little over a week ago I asked God to relieve her suffering if He wasn't going to heal her. Two days later that happened, she isn't suffering now and she soon will not be with us. Yes I dread that day because it will hurt tremendously, but I know and cherish the knowledge that she will be with our God.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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I am a better person than God! - by chimp3 - May 19, 2018 at 7:37 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Fireball - May 19, 2018 at 7:45 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by chimp3 - May 19, 2018 at 7:51 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Foxaèr - May 19, 2018 at 8:04 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by chimp3 - May 19, 2018 at 8:05 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Minimalist - May 19, 2018 at 8:23 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 19, 2018 at 9:35 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Fireball - May 19, 2018 at 11:16 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Chad32 - May 19, 2018 at 8:51 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Minimalist - May 19, 2018 at 10:15 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Foxaèr - May 19, 2018 at 10:20 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Minimalist - May 19, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by rskovride - May 19, 2018 at 11:17 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Godscreated - May 19, 2018 at 11:42 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Godscreated - May 20, 2018 at 11:47 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Godscreated - May 22, 2018 at 12:57 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Godscreated - May 23, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Angrboda - May 23, 2018 at 12:51 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by vorlon13 - May 23, 2018 at 2:06 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Angrboda - May 22, 2018 at 5:21 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Anomalocaris - May 19, 2018 at 11:48 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by ignoramus - May 20, 2018 at 12:11 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by robvalue - May 20, 2018 at 3:56 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 22, 2018 at 8:12 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Little Rik - May 20, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by vorlon13 - May 20, 2018 at 11:05 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Drich - May 21, 2018 at 9:25 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by chimp3 - May 21, 2018 at 8:45 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Drich - May 21, 2018 at 11:11 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Drich - May 21, 2018 at 1:44 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Minimalist - May 21, 2018 at 9:39 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Minimalist - May 22, 2018 at 1:02 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2018 at 7:57 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by SteveII - May 22, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by rskovride - May 22, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 23, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Minimalist - May 22, 2018 at 12:39 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Amarok - May 22, 2018 at 5:05 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by vorlon13 - May 22, 2018 at 5:51 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by rskovride - May 23, 2018 at 1:34 pm
RE: I am a better person than God! - by Godscreated - May 24, 2018 at 12:15 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by CapnAwesome - May 24, 2018 at 12:28 am
RE: I am a better person than God! - by chimp3 - May 24, 2018 at 1:07 am

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