RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 24, 2018 at 10:48 am
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2018 at 10:51 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(May 24, 2018 at 10:14 am)Mathilda Wrote: OK obviously CL was editing her post when I replied. It happens.
I find it interesting that theists are so sure that good and evil exists outside of us. If you wiped out all of the human race they seem to think that good and evil would still exist. But they cannot explain how this could be. It's basically the whole god question but in a different form and the same questions can be asked.
Like what is good and evil? / What is a god?
Why do you believe that good & evil / a god exists as a separate entity when it cannot be measured or sensed?
etc.
It's because we believe God Himself is the embodiment of goodness. So goodness exists first and foremost through Him. Evil is simply the opposite of that.
As to your last question, why we believe God exists... that's a whole other conversation lol.
(May 24, 2018 at 10:14 am)Mathilda Wrote:(May 24, 2018 at 10:11 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I meant the conflict between the 2 things you mentioned we believe in. You phrased it like those 2 things should be mutually exclussive, or contradictory to each other.
OK I see what you mean. I wasn't intending to make it sound like a conflict but a pattern of thinking common to theists.
This thread inspired by my other thread about how perhaps theists are more driven by things external to themselves and are less introspective.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-55073.html
I'll take a look at it. I have many faults and I'll be the first to admit that I royally suck at most things. But self awareness and introspection aren't among those things.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh