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Alien Question for Atheists
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RE: Alien Question for Atheists
(May 28, 2018 at 7:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So I started this thread as an off shoot from Tiberius' thread which is a question for Christians.

The scenario on the other thread is this: 

Quote:Peaceful aliens (i.e. intelligent non-humans from another planet, let's say outside of our solar system) make first contact. After getting to know them, the subject of religion comes up. They have a concept of religion, but none of their religions are compatible with Christianity. On top of this, their species made all the advancements that humans did (e.g. invention of writing, the wheel, agriculture, etc.) millennia before we did.

My question is, how would you react, especially with regard to their intelligence, and that their religions are incompatible with Christianity. Would it make you doubt Christianity, or that humans are "special" and made in God's image? 
https://atheistforums.org/thread-55158.html


So I wanted to ask you guys. If it was the other way around, how would you react to it? The other way around as in, we made contact with these intelligent beings and found out that the predominant religion in their planet is very compatible with Christianity, like it's basically the same thing. They talk about God having lived as one of them, they talk about the trinity, salvation, Heaven and Hell, etc. Would it make you doubt your position as atheists, or would it make you more open to exploring Christianity?


What an incompetent god.

So, on one planet, he created beings, set up a situation in paradise that would assure that we would fail (put the tree of knowledge of good and evil where the fallible beings could access it), condemn us for eternity for our failure (that he would have seen coming), then appear as himself/his son, to be sacrificed to himself, to act as a loophole for rules he created. Thus comeming hundreds of billions of his created beings to eternal torment.

Then, instead of learning from his failure, he does the same thing on another planet. Thus condemning billions of other beings to eternal torment.

What a loser.

If I left a loaded gun in a room full of 8 year olds, and one of them got shot, I think I would learn from my mistake. Your hypothetical posits a god to incompetent to correct his mistakes.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Alien Question for Atheists - by Catholic_Lady - May 28, 2018 at 7:03 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by brewer - May 28, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Catholic_Lady - May 28, 2018 at 7:11 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by brewer - May 28, 2018 at 8:14 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Catholic_Lady - May 28, 2018 at 8:18 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by brewer - May 28, 2018 at 8:30 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 28, 2018 at 8:31 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by CapnAwesome - May 29, 2018 at 1:25 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by brewer - May 29, 2018 at 1:35 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by CapnAwesome - May 29, 2018 at 1:43 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by brewer - May 29, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Anomalocaris - May 28, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - May 29, 2018 at 8:29 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Mister Agenda - May 29, 2018 at 6:28 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Losty - May 28, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Magilla - May 28, 2018 at 9:36 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Edwardo Piet - May 28, 2018 at 7:14 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Nay_Sayer - May 28, 2018 at 7:20 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by The Valkyrie - May 28, 2018 at 7:23 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Edwardo Piet - May 28, 2018 at 7:31 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Minimalist - May 28, 2018 at 7:31 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 28, 2018 at 7:42 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by chimp3 - May 28, 2018 at 7:48 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by tjakey - May 28, 2018 at 7:52 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by ignoramus - May 28, 2018 at 8:25 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by vorlon13 - May 28, 2018 at 8:29 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by rskovride - May 28, 2018 at 8:28 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Minimalist - May 28, 2018 at 8:32 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Fireball - May 28, 2018 at 8:45 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 28, 2018 at 8:50 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Fireball - May 28, 2018 at 8:55 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 28, 2018 at 9:04 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - May 29, 2018 at 10:08 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Tiberius - May 28, 2018 at 8:52 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by henryp - May 28, 2018 at 9:05 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Shell B - May 28, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Catholic_Lady - May 28, 2018 at 9:09 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Shell B - May 28, 2018 at 9:21 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Succubus - May 29, 2018 at 12:02 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Minimalist - May 28, 2018 at 9:30 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by polymath257 - May 28, 2018 at 9:36 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by ignoramus - May 28, 2018 at 9:42 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by robvalue - May 28, 2018 at 9:58 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by ignoramus - May 28, 2018 at 10:33 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Whateverist - May 28, 2018 at 10:45 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Catholic_Lady - May 29, 2018 at 10:41 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - May 29, 2018 at 11:09 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Catholic_Lady - May 29, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Angrboda - May 29, 2018 at 11:22 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Whateverist - May 29, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Catholic_Lady - May 29, 2018 at 11:45 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - May 29, 2018 at 11:52 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Whateverist - May 29, 2018 at 11:55 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - May 29, 2018 at 12:00 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by polymath257 - May 29, 2018 at 12:23 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Succubus - May 29, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Catholic_Lady - May 29, 2018 at 2:11 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Amarok - May 28, 2018 at 10:52 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Cecelia - May 28, 2018 at 11:52 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by AFTT47 - May 29, 2018 at 12:30 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Catholic_Lady - May 29, 2018 at 10:22 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - May 29, 2018 at 10:27 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Pat Mustard - May 29, 2018 at 8:01 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by downbeatplumb - May 29, 2018 at 8:42 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - May 29, 2018 at 8:46 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by emjay - May 29, 2018 at 9:25 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Angrboda - May 29, 2018 at 10:00 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 11:25 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by SaStrike - May 29, 2018 at 12:04 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 12:50 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by CapnAwesome - May 29, 2018 at 1:19 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Simon Moon - May 29, 2018 at 1:20 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - May 29, 2018 at 1:45 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by CapnAwesome - May 29, 2018 at 1:52 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by brewer - May 29, 2018 at 1:58 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Catholic_Lady - May 29, 2018 at 2:23 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Succubus - May 29, 2018 at 2:49 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - May 29, 2018 at 3:12 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Edwardo Piet - May 29, 2018 at 6:24 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by I_am_not_mafia - May 29, 2018 at 3:19 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2018 at 2:18 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2018 at 2:25 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 2:28 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 2:32 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2018 at 2:35 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by KevinM1 - May 29, 2018 at 2:38 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Silver - May 29, 2018 at 2:40 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 2:36 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2018 at 2:55 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 3:14 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by The Grand Nudger - May 29, 2018 at 3:47 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by KevinM1 - May 29, 2018 at 10:42 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Angrboda - May 29, 2018 at 6:31 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by robvalue - May 30, 2018 at 5:54 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Edwardo Piet - May 29, 2018 at 6:31 pm
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by Fake Messiah - May 30, 2018 at 1:48 am
RE: Alien Question for Atheists - by vulcanlogician - May 30, 2018 at 3:26 am

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