(June 4, 2018 at 12:57 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(June 4, 2018 at 12:49 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No sorry MK, while nobody can ultimately tell you how to cope with yourself personally, the fact is that religion IS NOT nor will ever be a replacement for the professionals. If it helps you cope that is on you, but no holy person or or holy book can replace a proper diagnosis or professional support.
God guides the mentally ill people (1/5 of people are mentally ill) as much he guides the non-mentally ill.
Why would God only guide non-mentally ill people and help them psychologically and not mentally ill people.
Sorry the damn stigma is nothing but a statement that says "We believe in you people who have mentally illness are CAPABLE".
I don't need someone to tell me to feel sorry for myself because I have no responsibility or capability or so little of responsibility or capability. That's the heart of the secular approach, and I don't buy it.
Please stop talking about your God to me on this subject. If you feel the need to believe in order to not hurt yourself or others, that is on you.
BUT AGAIN, that is you. That still DOES NOT constitute a replacement for professionals.
And were the fuck do you get off saying those with mental illness who don't buy your god have no responsibility or capability. Thank you for insulting my survival. I have been suicidal before, AND made it through without the help of a sky hero.
And you are not just insulting me, there are several people on this page with this post you have insulted as well.
I am PROOF that you CAN survive and cope without chalking it up to a sky hero. Saying it is ok to get help or have support from others IS NOT saying give up, or you are helpless, that is not what we are saying.
Nobody feels sorry for you. I have mental illness too, I am not asking you or anyone to feel sorry for me either.
PLEASE STOP IT!
Saying something is normal, and saying it is ok to have help for a very normal malady is NOT asking anyone to feel sorry for anyone. It is simply saying you should not be stigmatized for having it.