assisted suicide vs suicide prevention

[The Industrial Atheist]

It would depend on what drugs or therapy you'd already tried and what was or wasn't successful. I'm still not sure how stigma helped you. What stopped me before I ever got close was thinking about how much it would physically hurt and the likely result of having more physical or mental issues upon surviving failure. Also the people who would be hurt if I succeeded. I'm fortunate that I never got anywhere near getting past the point of being able to think about consequences.

I won't lie, the thought of waking up strapped down wasn't appealing either. But that's not really stigma.

So, what do you mean when you say stigma, and how did it help you? To me stigma is basically an unfair judgement, usually concerning character, about somebody who belongs to a marginalized group.

I can't imagine how feeling like some kind of freak gets you farther from killing yourself.

I am human foremost, and all the shame non-mentally ill person would feel at the idea of it, I feel I should do....

In fact, I know the nature of my madness in particular better then anyone else but God and his witnesses/guides that are doors of light out the darkness.

I don't need people to imagine guilt for themselves if they think of the idea, but make excuses for me.   I want people to say, if weak gain strength, if lost, then find yourself, if confused, the seek clarity, if sad then seek happiness, if disappointed then seek achievement, etc...

I don't want people being confused by a label and wondering what kind of creature I am. I want them to look at me with the same human eyes they look at themselves.

If this makes me judgemental to people with my illness then so be it.

It's much easier to tell someone to seek strength, or clarity or whatever, then to actually help them do it. That's what treatment is for.

If you say shame helped you, I don't know, if you say so I guess?

I think treatment would've help a whole lot more.

For the record, I have never thought you're a bad guy or anything. I'm sure I disagree with you on a lot of things, and most of those things I feel likely are based on religious belief. But I believed some things that I now think are pretty odious moral opinions. 

I think you want to do good, and I'm not always sure that's something you can say about everybody.