RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 8, 2018 at 1:51 pm
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2018 at 2:02 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 8, 2018 at 9:54 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(July 7, 2018 at 8:43 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The people are confusing, the phenomenon isn;t. Extremists live at the fringe of [whatever they think magic book is saying to them.
-but yeah..violence is normal for human beings, in many ways, many forms. Never make the mistake of thinking that you have a "peaceful" true believer...... of -anything-....... on your hands. You just haven;t crossed their lines yet, or they haven;t.
You can see his trapdoor already. "Deter aggression". We here in the land of the great satan call that a preemptive strike. A longer view of history and human behavior calls it pretext.
Muslims are normal people. And global Jihad was mainly invented after the disgusting foreign policy of the USA.
I;m fairly certain that the great satan wouldn;t exist for another 1k years when the first global jihad went down.....but you do you. I keep reminding you that we;ve been constant friends to muslims (especially extremists, lol!)..since our inception. Unless, ofc, the disgusting foreign policy you;re talking about amounts to "teh joos are coming teh joos are coming!". Don;t know what to tell you on that count, we have alot of friends. We can;t spend all of our time blowing you to the exclusion of all others.
Obvs muslims are normal people, though, lol. Which is why the notion of a peaceful true believer winds up being a common contradiction of terms. It doesn;t matter whether it;s a religion or a political ideology....or a political ideology that just so happens to be a religion...or a simple hatred of some demonized Other™.
(July 8, 2018 at 12:18 pm)robvalue Wrote: Getting your directions and morality from a book/authority is just flawed whatever way you look at it, in my opinion.
If you just do whatever you're told regardless, you're amoral at best, and prepared to carry out acts you consider horrible at worst.
If you would only do what you'd do anyway, or stop following it if it disagrees with you too much, then you're just projecting your own morality onto the book. You might as well not bother.
If a person gets their morality from a magic book they have no moral agency.
If a person projects their moral agency onto a magic book they;ve lent the magic book their morality.
Magic books are useless at best, disastrous at worst.
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