RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
July 13, 2018 at 1:52 pm
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2018 at 2:30 pm by SteveII.)
(July 13, 2018 at 1:44 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(July 13, 2018 at 1:37 pm)SteveII Wrote: First, no, it is reasoned:
1. Marriage was ordained between a man and a woman from the beginning--with no ambiguity.
2. Sexual immorality is sex outside of marriage.
3. Sexual immorality is a sin.
4. Homosexual activity is outside of marriage (from 1)
5. Homosexual activity is a sin (from 2 and 3).
Second, beliefs cannot be bigoted, only people.
big·ot·ed
ˈbiɡədəd/
adjective
I am not intolerant to the opinions of others. I understand your opinion and respect those that hold it. It does not follow that I have to agree with your opinion or I am a bigot (which is what you need to be true for your charge above to be true).
- having or revealing an obstinate belief in the superiority of one's own opinions and a prejudiced intolerance of the opinions of others.
1. Only in your system. Any system that is actually moral rejects this.
2. Again, any truly moral system rejects this.
3. The word sin is without true meaning. This is a null statement.
4. Only if marriage is disallowed for homosexuals. An immoral way to set things up.
5. Well, your result follows from your faulty assumptions.
Having a series of claims that are themselves illogical as a proof for an immoral claim is not using logic.
When people condemn gays and make it so they can't have the healthy, normal relationships with their partners that everyone else is allowed, that is bigotry.
You ENTIRELY missed my point from all my posts. I am not arguing that homosexual marriage is wrong. I am explaining the belief because most of you are not capable of even articulating the belief and pointing out that most of the charges are mischaracterizations and straw men--not much of a foundation for civil discourse.
It is utter foolishness to argue with atheists about the foundation of a belief which starts with "Well, in the beginning God...".
I know happy gay people. By definition, my religious beliefs do not make me a bigot. You cannot win this point.