"Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham

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And this is tradition, not definition. Marriage is a government recognition of a bond between two people who announce that bond to the world.

Where do you get that? You couldn't be more wrong. Marriage predates government in every culture--ever. 

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But it *isn't* a definition older than history. In fact, non-monogamous relationships and relationships between those of the same gender were probably much more accepted before the rise of monotheism. It was *your* tradition that changed the definitions!

Again, you are making things up. Yes, in certain cultures homosexual relationships was acceptable--but I don't recall that it was ever called marriage. Every culture in the world, ever, had the concept of marriage. 

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It isn't a change of the definition. And yes, they are wrong to be bigoted and not allow perfectly healthy, loving relationships between those who don't agree with their BS.

Yes, it very much a fact that it is a change in definition. 

This is very interesting. Post after post after post, you atheists continue to prove that you don't understand the main Christian position while trying to prove that you do!! Your angry echo chamber seems to be impenetrable.

Oh, we understand the Christian position. We understand that religion wants to co-opt the concept of marriage to themselves. But marriage is simply a way to form family bonds in the context of a society. Today, that is reflected in government sanction. Those bonds can be between people no matter what their gender and *have* been in many cultures. YOU want to make it specifically a religious thing based on being able to reproduce (and then make exceptions for opposite gendered couples that cannot or choose not to).

Whatever form of marriage existed before governments was simply a societal recognition of the bond between the individuals. Such bonds do NOT require opposite genders.