RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
July 16, 2018 at 4:01 pm
(July 16, 2018 at 3:36 pm)SteveII Wrote:(July 16, 2018 at 3:31 pm)polymath257 Wrote: It is when you institute a 'separate but equal' framework for 'secular unions'.
The *word* isn't that important. What *is* important is the societal and governmental benefits, including things like survivor benefits and tax deductions. Also, the recognition by the government of the bond.
You are kidding yourself...big time. It had everything to do with the word 'marriage'. No way was 'civil unions' enough. You don't know what you are talking about.
Quote:Would you be happier if government got out of the marriage business altogether, leaving that to the religious institutions, and instead have *every* government sanctioned union be a civil union?
Yes.
HA HA HA, hey dumbass, our government ALREADY IS out of the business.
You do know, the difference between mandated and voluntary? You do NOT need a religious person to conduct a marriage ceremony. You can, but you ARE NOT REQUIRED.
I got married by a judge, and specifically requested he not mention God or the bible. The only thing that is required by law is signing a license and getting it notarized by the county/city clerk. You are not even required to have a religious ceremony.
Fucking boat captains on cruise ships conduct them. If you want a Muslim marriage or Jewish marriage what matters isn't the holy person, but the legal document signed by the witness, confirmed by the clerk. I got married WITHOUT YOUR FUCKING GOD!
Just fucking grow up. Basing your life on antiquity is FUCKING STUPID! If you are going to condemn gays, then you should be consistent and condemn interracial marriage which was ALSO condemned justifying the bible. You have no fucking clue what real oppression is. If you live in Iran or Saudi Arabia, and tried to date outside your religion, you'd get condemned or worse, MURDERED!
Voluntary is NOT A BAN, but the Christian bible IS NOT required by law, nor is a Christian holy person required by law to be legal witness to a marriage. It is why a Christian and Jew can marry. It is why a atheist and Christian can marry. It is why a Muslim and Christian can marry. It is also why non religious DONT need a holy person to marry.
And your hypocrisy and ignorance is ASTOUNDING.... You now want government out of the institution of marriage after tons of posts advocating for only Christian marriage? No, you DO WANT religion involved. Your sect and only when you get to define it.
Make up your fucking mind? Do you want government involved in marriage based on religion, or not? Or is it really you want OUR government to favor your bigotry?
