RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
July 19, 2018 at 12:04 am
(July 18, 2018 at 11:39 pm)robvalue Wrote: This is being talked about like changing a definition is some magical act of oppression. No one can force anyone to mean something different by a word. I could make it clear to everyone that when I say "marriage", I always mean the man/woman kind. Similarly, no one can be forced to interpret words a certain way.
Words still have multiple meanings, and in this case it's the definition of secular marriage that is being brought in line with the legal status. People can continue to talk about informal marriage, religious marriage, or fucking toaster marriage as much as they want. No one is going to arrest you for doing so. It's also still dependent on what country you are in, America isn't the whole world!
The "man/woman" thing is a blatant restriction which is irrelevant to everything else marriage is about (outside of any religious connotations). It's not the point of marriage, or the defining feature. The fact that some people think that it is, just shows how their mind works. And again, no one is forcing them to update what they mean by words. The restriction is/was there due to the intolerant nature of society, just like every other case where we have now progressed.
Some people can't bear to think about gays as equals, and I wish they'd just admit to that rather than hiding behind this utter shite.
I think that you are trying to equivocate here. This is not about who one is attracted to. I’m not saying that a person attracted to the same sex is any less human nor undeserving of basic human rights and dignity. As you said, it is about a definition of marriage. And that we disagree, doesn’t give one liberty to make up lies about another.
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