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"Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
(July 23, 2018 at 8:49 am)polymath257 Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 8:33 am)SteveII Wrote: It is not even *remotely* the same.

The main point of contention is the definition of marriage. In your attempt at a parallel, you didn't change any definitions. No one would ever say that two people of different races can't logically get married. If you have a problem with the concept of an interracial marriage, you would be bigoted because the objection is based on race not on the definition of marriage. 

Using the ten millennium old definition of marriage, it is illogical for same sex to get married. 

I don't care [at all] if you think the definition should be changed. That is your opinion. What does NOT FOLLOW is that wishing to preserve the definition makes you a bigot.

On the contrary, people *did* argue that it was *logically* impossible for two races to marry, just as it would be *logically* impossible for humans to marry chimps (that was the argument).

The *definition* of marriage is 'a societally recognized bond used to form a family unit'. There is *no* reason that can't be applied to gay marriage. And, to deny it, is a form of bigotry.
Not to mention racists argued not just that they couldn't but the birth of mixed race children would lead not negative consequences and that it was against nature to mix races .

And again defining marriage by reproduction is arbitrary their is no reason a family unit cannot be comprised of gay people .

(July 23, 2018 at 8:51 am)Divinity Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 8:33 am)SteveII Wrote: polymath2
It is not even *remotely* the same.

The main point of contention is the definition of marriage. In your attempt at a parallel, you didn't change any definitions. No one would ever say that two people of different races can't logically get married. If you have a problem with the concept of an interracial marriage, you would be bigoted because the objection is based on race not on the definition of marriage. 

Using the ten millennium old definition of marriage, it is illogical for same sex to get married. 

I don't care [at all] if you think the definition should be changed. That is your opinion. What does NOT FOLLOW is that wishing to preserve the definition makes you a bigot.

That's because you're a fucking bigot, and bigots don't like being called out on their bigotry.

"I WANT TO DENY PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO GET MARRIED ON THE BASIS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION!  BUT I'm NOT A BIGOT!"

Somehow, I think if we decided "God" has a 2 millenia old definition, and that Christ ain't it, you'd be pretty pissed that we decided you couldn't have freedom of religion on that basis.  So fuck off, you fucking bigotted maggot.  Your parents should truly be locked up for producing such a worthless offspring.
Yup all this definition and tradition crap is just rationalizations .Like white nationalists trying to appeal to various avenues of bullshit to condemn mixed race couples . Sorry we not buying it . Dodgy
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham - by Amarok - July 23, 2018 at 9:21 am

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