RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
July 23, 2018 at 12:25 pm
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2018 at 12:32 pm by polymath257.)
(July 23, 2018 at 10:59 am)SteveII Wrote: BTW, was President Clinton Bigoted when he supported DOMA?
He supported a bigoted law because of political pressure.
It was hardly an example of moral courage.
(July 23, 2018 at 9:59 am)SteveII Wrote:(July 23, 2018 at 9:32 am)polymath257 Wrote: Hmmm...you cross a line today and gay marriage is legal. Seems quite similar to me.
And yes, indeed it *was* the view of *many* people at one time. They even supported their views with quotes from the Bible.
Again, the *relevant definition* of marriage is 'a bond between people that is societally recognized to form a family unit'. There is NOTHING in that definition that requires opposite genders. And this is a *universal* definition that has worked in *all* cultures.
You are confusing formulating a logical argument to support your belief that is it wrong with the question: is interracial marriage logically possible. Of course it is--in every sense of the word.
Do you realize you just keep repeating your new definition of marriage? For 10,000+ years it was COMPLETELY defined as heterosexual. You would be hard-pressed to even find some ancient, remote, limited timeframe, exception, anywhere. You can't win this. The only thing you can do is express your opinion that the definition should be changed.
But I would say this is NOT a new definition. it is the definition that has always been used. it's just that in the past societies, for various reasons, did not accept gay marriages. We have overcome those limitations. Also, some societies did not share that limitation, even in the past. But in *all* cases, marriage was a bond between people recognized by society in order to form a family unit.