RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
July 23, 2018 at 1:06 pm
(July 23, 2018 at 12:25 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(July 23, 2018 at 10:59 am)SteveII Wrote: BTW, was President Clinton Bigoted when he supported DOMA?
He supported a bigoted law because of political pressure.
It was hardly an example of moral courage.
(July 23, 2018 at 9:59 am)SteveII Wrote: You are confusing formulating a logical argument to support your belief that is it wrong with the question: is interracial marriage logically possible. Of course it is--in every sense of the word.
Do you realize you just keep repeating your new definition of marriage? For 10,000+ years it was COMPLETELY defined as heterosexual. You would be hard-pressed to even find some ancient, remote, limited timeframe, exception, anywhere. You can't win this. The only thing you can do is express your opinion that the definition should be changed.
But I would say this is NOT a new definition. it is the definition that has always been used. it's just that in the past societies, for various reasons, did not accept gay marriages. We have overcome those limitations. Also, some societies did not share that limitation, even in the past. But in *all* cases, marriage was a bond between people recognized by society in order to form a family unit.
This is getting ridiculous. In *all* cases, marriage was a bond between people a man and a women recognized by society in order to form a family unit. This is the complete definition. You cannot find an exception.
If you want to take out man and woman, you have made the definition broader. You have changed the meaning. You have changed the definition.