RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
July 23, 2018 at 2:18 pm
(July 23, 2018 at 1:59 pm)SteveII Wrote:(July 23, 2018 at 1:40 pm)polymath257 Wrote: I disagree. The marriage between gays is a matter of law. That is all that is relevant. Whether *you* consider it to be a marriage is irrelevant as whether *you* consider a corporation to be a person.Dropping the definition thing I see. Good. It was a loser argument from the beginning.
The only question is whether gays should be allowed to enter into exactly the same legal agreements to have their bond legally recognized.
I understand that it is a matter of law that gays can get married. The definition still had to be changed for that to happen. There is a significant part of the populace who preferred to keep the 10,000 year old definition. Which brings me back to my point I have made over and over--opposing the change does not entail bigotry. Making that argument is impossible.
Why do you make such a big deal of the definition???
The relevant definition is the legal one. Not the religious one. Not any definition you imagine going back thousands of years (and which, in fact, doesn't). The legal definition right here and right now.
Seriously, there were more that are perfectly happy with the definition as it is currently used in US law. And yes, the only reason to stick with your imagined ancient, traditional definition is bigotry.
You simply don't want to think that gays can have a perfectly healthy relationship that is approved by the society. because that is what marriage is. And that is ALL it is.