RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
July 24, 2018 at 2:43 pm
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2018 at 2:51 pm by SteveII.)
(July 24, 2018 at 1:40 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Yes, how many words change their definitions over time? Pretty much every single one. And they change because the society needs them to change.
That so obviously false. I don't know how you can say that with a straight face. We have millions of concepts that have not changed one iota since they were defined.
Quote:I've yet to see a reason why *not* to change the definition if that makes things better (which it would).
The only reason i can see is that they think homosexuality is automatically immoral. And yes, that is bigotry.
No. 'Better' is a word to describe relative value against some sort of scale. There is no 'better' in changing the definition of marriage. It is just simply changing it.
Nope again. Thinking something is immoral does not ever equal bigotry. A charge of bigotry is positive claim. It is not the null hypothesis or the default position when someone thinks something is immoral. I think many things are immoral. Does that make me bigoted toward prostitutes, drug dealers, people who steal, people cheating on their spouse, people stealing cable? No--that's nonsense. You can't ever make an argument that a position on issue x automatically makes you a bigot. Definitions of these words prevent you from doing that. Of course you could always redefine them--seems to be your thing.
big·ot·ry
ˈbiɡətrē/
noun
- intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
(July 24, 2018 at 12:45 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Since you keep ignoring the question, I'll ask again. How has the change to the definition of the word marriage impacted you, Steve? There must be some reason you're in such a twist over it.
Why does it have to impact me in order for me to have an opinion?
The reason I participated in the idiotically-named thread is that a bunch of atheists prefer to mischaracterize the Christian position on homosexuality, they apply shitty reasoning to people's motives, and they continue to propagate polarizing rhetoric that is founded on nonsense.