RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
July 25, 2018 at 10:30 am
(This post was last modified: July 25, 2018 at 10:32 am by polymath257.)
(July 25, 2018 at 6:55 am)SteveII Wrote: And it is your opinion that marriage only means these things. My list is significantly longer. In addition, I have beliefs that we were made for a purpose. One of these purposes was to get married and experience this longer list.
I really don't care what your *religious* beliefs are in this matter. The question is what the *secular* society should do.
Quote:There is no more fundamental institution than marriage to the development of all of civilization. You cannot find a comparison, let alone a comparison who's definition has changed. This line of argumentation is not just weak, it is just not valid.
I disagree. Marriage is one of many institutions in our society that change over time as our society changes. It used to be that 'government' could only mean having one person at the top. It used to be that 'religion' was integrated into the governmental structure. Those have changed and the change is good.
Quote:The fact that my opinion is that the definition should not change CANNOT itself be deemed intolerant and so by definition, is not bigoted.
OK, if you're not a bigot, then you're just an asshole.[/quote]
(July 25, 2018 at 7:03 am)SteveII Wrote:(July 24, 2018 at 5:01 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: So, you're not impacted bye the change, yet you are still opposed to the change. And, you wonder why that makes you look like a bigot.
It makes me look like a bigot because that has been drilled into your head that the two things are connected. It actually does not make me a bigot and you have failed over and over to make the logical connection. Definitionally, a difference of opinion does not = intolerance of an opinion.
If you take your arguments and translate them to a race-based situation, they would be labeled as bigoted immediately.
There is no difference here except in your imagination.
