(August 30, 2018 at 12:39 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(August 30, 2018 at 12:08 pm)Kit Wrote: Think of it this way:
Theist: god is real / unicorn is real
Atheist: god is not real / unicorn is not real
It is not willful ignorance on part of the atheist when there is absolutely no evidence for the existence of that for which the believer is making a positive claim of existence.
It is not a difficult concept to understand, yet theist tend to make it doubly so merely based on an ignorant adherence to faith.
Faith is nothing of which to be proud or to cling. It should be discarded, because it is useless. It corrupts the mind, which becomes more apparent the more we debate.
That reads like a polemic. I wouldn't be so certain. There are things that are evident about the world. People can reason from some of those observations that God exists. You may believe that that specific conclusion does not follow from particular observations, but saying flat out that there is "no evidence" inverts the relationship between evidence and the conclusions one could possibly draw from the evidence. As such it is an unfounded assertion. Let me show you the difference...
Step 1: There is something evident about the world.
Step 2: Some conclusion follows from what is evident.
Step 3: What is evident supports the conclusion.
versus
Step 1: No conclusions can be drawn from something evident about the world.
To be evidence concerning a proposition (like 'God exists'), the observation has to change the probability of the proposition being true. It *isn't* simply that the observation is consistent with the proposition (if the negation is also consistent, for example). I have yet to see one piece of information that changes the probability that the statement 'God exists' is true in a positive direction. So I deny that Step 2 applies in the case you want to apply it to.