RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
August 30, 2018 at 5:07 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2018 at 5:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 30, 2018 at 4:54 pm)bennyboy Wrote:There's no strict necessity of differential treatment, and remedying the differential treatment that has lead to inequality in the first place is not differential treatment. If I'm giving one guy 10 apples, and the other guy 5 apples, if I then proceed to give the second guy five more apples and the first guy none......(August 30, 2018 at 11:31 am)Khemikal Wrote: The area in which we do not agree is your perpetuation of the white victimization complex, the language and examples you use to defend and assert it, and it's ultimate origin as a part of your positions.
I think you and I define equality differently. I define it as non-differential treatment based on statutes and ideas that apply equally to all, without regard to demographics or to station in life. To you, it's more complicated than that-- where injustice is perceived, then it must be corrected, even if it involves differential treatment (which you justify because some groups have been differentially treated, and negatively so, perhaps for a very long time).
-but, sure, in a place where it's been demonstrated that..for whatever reason they just cant stop being racist assholes, I can see a case for real differential treatment, rather than the "differential treatment" of the white victimization complex.
Quote:This is immediately obvious. If a black guy calls someone "trailer park trash," and the recipient of that comment responds, "fuck you, nigger!" this isn't seen by anyone as an equal exchange-- even if they have the exact same economic status, to the penny. Both comments are racist and hateful, but they aren't really viewed as being in the same category, because of the history behind them.Technically ones classist and the other is racist. You see, people aren't trailer park trash on account of their skin color...and..usually, not even on account of living in a trailer park.
They have to go the extra mile, lol.
Quote:All through this thread, I've been a voice for moderation. However, since it is the narrative of the left which I'm currently attempt to moderate, you've determined that since I don't seem to be flying the same banner you do, I must be antithetical to the views you think you hold-- about equality and fair play. But that's not the case-- I just think the way that the PC Left tries to do this-- by restricting language and by shutting down antithetical views or discussion, is all kinds of wrong-- you literally couldn't make a worse way to restore equality.As long as it's not fighting for them by telling people to stop calling them niggers, stop perpetuating racial myths, or demanding that we end the differential treatment that leads to inequality...or..what?
I'll keep saying that the way to equality is to establish the rights of individuals, and to address individual complaints with zeal.
Maybe in the South, where complaints made by black people are not GOING to be addressed with any real interest in fairness, my view is too idealistic. But even then, I don't think reframing language in demographics and euphemism is the right way to go-- demanding individual rights, and collectively showing a willingness to FIGHT for them, would be better in my opinion. Let it be known that those who stand against individual rights will be identified and forced at gunpoint to extend those rights, if necessary.
Benny, you're tied into a knot on this one. PC and SJ issues are -exactly- what you think should be done, but your perception of both is not informed by that..it has, instead, been formed by the voices of normalizing propaganda. I get that you may be unfamiliar, you are in S. Korea..after all... and your lens into this thing appears to come entirely from the internet and from parody. Peterson and South Park and Libs getting Pwnt on what I presume are "skeptic" channels you watch. This is the route that white supremacy has chosen. They're the people who manufacture the red pill. It seems like medicine, but it's not.....it's fucking poison.
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