(September 13, 2018 at 5:01 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(September 13, 2018 at 4:12 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I probably wouldn't use that word.
However since you brought it up. If I remember correctly, you get a little uppity, when I make statements about atheists making claims, and then saying that they are not making any claims about reality. I don't think that you can call someone delusional, without making a claim about reality (which would thus require support). For what that is worth anyway.
What's your point? As far as I'm concerned a belief in god(s) is delusional in any reality. If the religious/religions want to be butt hurt because I see cult traits in their actions, activities and behaviors, I don't care. If your reality includes a god and religion, I wouldn't care if it didn't impact my life or invade my space. Unfortunately, where I live, I'm confronted with it every day. Can you say the same about atheists/ism (excluding this forum)? On a daily basis do you hear "there is no god" when out in public minding your own business?
The believers problem is that they assume the worst connotation when they hear delusion or cult. There are some organizations that have cult traits that produce good results, AA for one, some christian religions for another. There are probably other religions that fit but I haven't been exposed to them enough to form an opinion, but assume my opinion would be the same.
If you need the belief to make it thru your day, fine, good, no skin off my teeth. Understand that your/their belief needs to stop where my nose starts. In my world that rarely happens. Can you really blame me for speaking out?
And I prefer "panies in a bunch".
The point was that you seem to get your panties in a bunch when I talk about atheists making claims and denying that they do, and yet here you are making claims (when you usually deny doing so).
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther