RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 14, 2018 at 9:40 am
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2018 at 9:53 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 14, 2018 at 8:58 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't think that I understand how this has anything to do with whether the nature of numbers is objective or not.
Numbers can provide epistemic objectivity while being simultaneously ontologically subjective. In the least restrictive view of subjectivity, concepts are necessarrily subjective. In the most restrictive view, concepts are deeply biased by subjectivity.
Consider the position this puts us in. There is a range between the most and least restrictive sensible descriptions...but that range goes from necessarily subjective to incidentally but meaningfully subjective. It doesn't get us over the hill and into ontological objectivity. If, like me, you prefer the most restrictive view of subjectivity (to cut out any number of meaningless or trivial subjectivities, for example)...then the best we can say is that our deeply subjective concepts -seem- to have an objective referent. That doesn't make the concepts themselves any less subjective, and the concepts themselves are not the thing to which they refer. They are abstractions of varying accuracy and clarity. That makes them sufficient as a basis for epistemic claims, but it doesn't certify ontological claims.
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