AP: Obama's nose is growing

[John V]

Lol, I just got done acknowledging your OP, and that Obama being dishonest is wrong, AND that people should be prepared to discuss both sides in order to have productive dialogue, and you got me ‘deflecting’ from that?  Now you’re just being dishonest for the sake of arguing.

No, I'm saying you're deflecting, or whatabouting, or whatever you want to call it, for trying to change the subject to Trump.

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Gee, Alpha, you didn't say anything about Jimmy Carter in your post. Why does he get off so easy?

Er, because he's not out campaigning like Obama is.

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I think it's fine to talk about Obama's inaccuracies as long as he's seen fit to insert himself into the race.  I just question the validity of some of the AP article claims.  Still, if Obama's nose is growing, and he's actively involved in politics, I see nothing wrong with sharing it and discussing it.  Though additionally, there is a question of perspective given both that politicians are known to stumble when it comes to the truth, and Obama apparently isn't immune, as well as acknowledging that this is small potatoes compared to the number of lies and whoppers for which our Liar In Chief has been responsible.  If Trump could be restrained to Obama levels, we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion, or at least, it would be somewhat different than it is.  The failure of both Trump and conservatives as a whole has inflated the issue in a way that it might not have otherwise been, and made the gaffs of Obama more salient.

Where's everyone jumping in with  tu quoque/whatabout charges?

Same with correlations. Lefties use them all the time, and  no one bats an eye. Conservative uses one, and 8 people howl about causation.

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@Capn

Aroura’s reaction was exactly the one Alpha was looking for.  He admitted to trolling in his own thread, lol.

It was the reaction I was expecting. I would much prefer rational discussion. The left just doesn't have much of that these days.