RE: AP: Obama's nose is growing
September 17, 2018 at 8:11 am
(This post was last modified: September 17, 2018 at 8:47 am by Angrboda.)
(September 17, 2018 at 7:50 am)alpha male Wrote:(September 14, 2018 at 6:12 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I think it's fine to talk about Obama's inaccuracies as long as he's seen fit to insert himself into the race. I just question the validity of some of the AP article claims. Still, if Obama's nose is growing, and he's actively involved in politics, I see nothing wrong with sharing it and discussing it. Though additionally, there is a question of perspective given both that politicians are known to stumble when it comes to the truth, and Obama apparently isn't immune, as well as acknowledging that this is small potatoes compared to the number of lies and whoppers for which our Liar In Chief has been responsible. If Trump could be restrained to Obama levels, we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion, or at least, it would be somewhat different than it is. The failure of both Trump and conservatives as a whole has inflated the issue in a way that it might not have otherwise been, and made the gaffs of Obama more salient.
Where's everyone jumping in with tu quoque/whatabout charges?
Same with correlations. Lefties use them all the time, and no one bats an eye. Conservative uses one, and 8 people howl about causation.
Did anyone besides me challenge you on the facts? If not, it's an appeal to hypocrisy, but not a fallacy. It's just a condemnation of your supporting Trump and pointing out Obama's small change while Trump repeatedly trammels the truth. And you ignored my further point about why the context of Trump's lies is significant. Your comments in this thread lend credence to the suggestion that the thread itself was a setup for a tu quoque aimed at leftists and leftism. As to why people are charging you with hypocrisy, perhaps it's simply that they don't trust you (for some reason).
I don't know what you're talking about with regard to correlations. Perhaps if you gave an example of what you're talking about. I didn't read a lot of the comments in this thread particularly closely, as there was quite a bit of whataboutism, but I don't recall anything having to do with correlation.