(May 22, 2009 at 3:34 am)fr0d0 Wrote: No 'Twisting' because you're trying every was possible to make the words say what you want them to say. You can't face facts for some reason.
Why do you think they're twisted?
Belief in something WITH evidence is rational - to believe ANYWAY without and giving special treatment with no more evidence is IRRATIONAL. Faith IS believing without evidence and as far as I know anyway that means it's bloody irrational! How COULD that be rational?
To rationally believe in the existence of something you need evidence. Rational reasons to believe in the existence of something IF AT ALL RATIONAL would have to equate to evidence otherwise those reasons wouldn't be rational.
I provide an argument. You make no counter argument and say it's twisting.
I will assume that because you are confused by my logic and cannot provide a counter argument to it.
If you can actually explain WHY my logic is twisted and provide a counter argument then perhaps I wouldn't just think you merely cannot counter what I said because I've demonstrated that:
Faith= irrational because belief without evidence=irrational because it's irrational to believe in something WITHOUT valid reasons and valid reasons TO believe would=evidence therefore there can be no faith if you believe with valid reasons because they would equate to evidence and you cannot have faith if you have evidence.
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